--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, khazana108 <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I look forward instead to having actual "no need to
> > > 'win'...just having a fun discussion" interactions 
> > > with people who have evolved past the level of 
> > > trying to establish dominance -- dominance of their
> > > egos, and dominance of their ideas. I look forward to
> > > khazana108 being back, because he "gets" that kind
> > > of interaction, and I look forward to similar inter-
> > > actions with other people here who have established
> > > a history of being able to maintain that kind of
> > > non-attached, non-argumentative real dialogue. 
> > 
> > Thanks Barry, and so do I look forward having dialogues 
> > with you. While I was away I read, once in a while (on 
> > my phone), you, I read Xeno, I read Curtis, I read Share. 
> > 
> > Who's really interested in the barking of a bit-bull, 
> > in adolescent high school ramblings (we have some 
> > specialists here), or endless drama queenerie about the 
> > meaning of a single word? I guess FFL has become the 
> > troll-dustbin of other forums by now.
> 
> Although, you have to admit that it's amusing from
> a psychology/sociology point of view. I'm amused by
> the phenomenon I call "throwing oneself on the turd."

Is this a patented Barry phenomenon or something I should have already known 
about?

> It's similar to that staple of war movies in which
> the hero (soon to be ex-hero) throws himself on the
> grenade to save his buddies, but in the FFL version
> it's what happens when one of the clique either
> suffers from poor impulse control

Is this related to bladder or bowel control?

 >or consciously
> decides to sacrifice themselves to get in one last
> barb at the Common Enemy,

What are those smudges on your shirt there, looks and smells a bit like 
excrement to me.

 even though they know that
> it'll cause them to "post out" and sit on the Stupid
> People's Bench for a week.

Are they stupid to take a break from this joint or just stupid because they 
can't count?
> 
> The fascinating thing about this phenomenon from a
> psychological or sociological point of view is that
> the last steaming turd is often thrown at someone
> who isn't even reading the thrower's posts. 

Now they're throwing turds not just landing in them, okay...

>So the
> "turd offering" is not even "aimed" at the person
> it's supposedly thrown at. Instead it's thrown to
> curry favor with other women (even if they're not
> technically women, just acting like them)

What are they acting like, men? So what's your point?

 >in their
> clique. What's up with that? Do they *collect*
> turds or something?  :-)

More likely the ones on the receiving end of the turds would be likely to be 
collecting. The throwers are obviously ridding themselves of them. Get it 
straight man. But enough of this turd/scatological talk.
> 
> Speaking of interesting psychological/sociological
> phenomena, have you ever noticed that folks who
> talk the most about "forgiveness" and its healing
> power are coincidentally the same folks who hold
> onto grudges the longest, and keep demanding 
> apologies from others for "offenses" supposedly
> committed weeks, months, or years ago? What's up
> with that, too?

Haven't noticed.
> 
> With this in mind, here are a number of quotes I
> found with regard to apology, or apologizing. I 
> found them interesting, and you might, too:
> 
> "No one who demands an apology deserves one." 
> - Raymond Chandler
> 
> "Demanding an apology is an attempt to prolong 
> and escalate a disagreement, not diffuse it." 
> - Fritz Perls
> 
> "Anyone demanding an apology is an extortionist. 
> They are declaring their intention to hold onto 
> a grudge, whether real ore imaginary, until you 
> pay their ransom. The thing is, just as with 
> financial extortionists, if you pay the ransom 
> you're just inviting the next attempt at extortion." 
> - Dashiell Hammett
> 
> "She stomped out, spun on her heel and said that 
> if I didn't apologize she'd never speak to me 
> again. I thanked her for getting the point, and 
> closed the door." 
> - Raymond Chandler
> 
> "It is a good rule in life never to apologize. 
> The right sort of people do not want apologies, 
> and the wrong sort take a mean advantage of them." 
> - P. G. Wodehouse
> 
> "Apologies can never be demanded, they're only 
> apologies if they're offered freely." 
> - some Buddha or another

Apology is only egotism wrong side out.
Oliver Wendell Holmes

"I can wholeheartedly apologize for not being at all sorry. And it really is 
the least I can do."

But it appears Barry can't even do that.



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