But the practice of qigong can lead to such experience
________________________________ From: emptybill <emptyb...@yahoo.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 11:46 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: muula-bandha? Using the tip of the tongue to the roof of the mouth to close the circuit is Qi-gong not Hatha/Kudalini. The circuit used is a nadi but is not sushumna and is secondary in significance and function. For Tantrika-s, Kundalini is the primal power (adya.shakti) in the human subtle body and abides in "sleep/forgetfulness" in the forest of samsara. Heavy duty yogins address her as bitch and whore because she has left her lord and companion (prabhu) to have sex with the intellect/mind/senses/matter. She doesn't couple with the ego-I (ahamkara) because she is the "I" in illusion. When she awakens from her delusion, wandering and slumber she give s the finger to samsara and returns home to be with her love. In experiential terms she is not "some movement in the spine". Those are just impulses of the more general prana-shakti (life-powers) that enervate the body. When Kundalini (the "she-coil") begins to ascend it is the river of life moving into various seas and finally expanding into the ocean of omni-presence. Imagine what it would be like to have liquid sunlight (like a water hose) flood your spine taking everything plus you into an ocean of light in your heart. It then floods upwards to dissolve in vastness. You would at that point have a sense of it. This is not qi-gong. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote: > > I guess the simplest definition is that it's a technique for circulating > energy. I learned it in a workshop with tantric teacher David Deida. One > keeps the tip of the tongue gently on the roof of the mouth to close the > circuit. I'm pretty sure that's not part of Kegel. > > Also I think the difference in intention is important. Kegel is mainly for > health. Muula-banda is for that plus spiritual development. > > > > ________________________________ > From: card cardemaister@... > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 11:25 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] muula-bandha? > > >  > > I've thought muula-bandha is something like Kegel. > > Reading some descriptions yesterday made me abandon > that thought. > > What exactly is it? >