BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Go write a song, Curtis.
--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@...>
wrote:
>
> Between the title and the chosen screen name I certainly can't fault you for
> incomplete disclosure.
>
>
> --- In [email protected], doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > Someone once said that if a person is not serious about a spiritual
> > journey, better they do not start at all. Several people here seem to have
> > gotten in over their heads. I'll explain what I mean.
> >
> > Almost any skill is learned, by absorbing it, and practicing it, for
> > proficiency. Fly a plane, drive a car, play music, read a book, become an
> > architect, etc. The relationship of learner to object changes, only as
> > knowledge of the object deepens. There is an assumed 'I', in order to make
> > learning possible.
> >
> > The goal of the spiritual journey is to burn down any previous identity,
> > and transcend completely, in order to make genuine discoveries. Only then
> > do we begin to see the world as it is, watching its glorious and unending
> > unfolding.
> >
> > But, it means confronting deep stories, beliefs, and the emotions,
> > primarily fear, that drive them. Typically, the journey begins with
> > following somebody, Buddha, Jesus (vs. Christ), Mohammed, Shiva, etc.,
> > within the context of previous followers; go to a Buddhist temple, read the
> > bible, start a meditation program.
> >
> > Often times, what these followers will do, is substitute the issues of
> > their life, for the glory and promise they feel as new followers of
> > whatever vehicle they have chosen for their spiritual journey. In other
> > words, the previous dream is replaced, or enhanced, by the current dream,
> > the second dream.
> >
> > For many of us, the initial transcending brought about by the TM technique,
> > seems, and seemed, like a better dream. Get all cozy with Vedic
> > Knowledge-lite, sit in front of a guru, put on the trappings of the
> > organization pushing the technique, and dream, dream, dream on.
> >
> > Inevitably, if a person continues the spiritual journey, they are faced
> > with the extinction of the path and the organization that brought them this
> > far. This will mean they cannot return to the dream that set then on their
> > path, nor can they continue refuge in a religion or spiritual organization.
> >
> > They are on their own. HOLY SHIT!
> >
> > Losing one's contextual identity can be a scary thing. Cutting oneself out
> > like a paper doll, to stand alone, then reducing that to ashes, terrifies
> > most people more than physical death does. The response for many is to
> > retreat into the ego, and ideas and theories and beliefs, escaping into yet
> > a third dream.
> >
> > Like Curtis here, on the illusory basis of their ego-bound selves, they are
> > endlessly questioning and challenging these things they exposed themselves
> > to during that initial spiritual discovery - Maharishi was this and that,
> > blah, blah, blah, often simply spouting palaver to salve their foolish ways
> > during their rush to forget themselves at the feet of some teacher or
> > other. They earnestly reject the second dream, for the third; that of
> > "earnest confusion".
> >
> > Its a good place to be these days, "earnestly confused". People appreciate
> > and respect this type of false searching, this questioning that never turns
> > inward, this dream of false discovery.
> >
> > It makes us appear genuine and heartfelt to others - a nice guy, a sweet
> > woman. Sadly it is neither. So, these terrified fools (sorry but calling it
> > as I see it) retreat into books, theories and thoughts that leave them
> > hopelessly caught in a vise, between whatever dream they falsely followed,
> > and their deep terror of complete dissolution.
> >
> > However, they have learned enough of their rejected path to have gained
> > some insight. This makes them appear "wise", and "knowledgeable" and
> > "widely read". The reality is that they are not a whole lot further along
> > in their spiritual path as when they started.
> >
> > Want to know how to see this type of person? They are tied to their past
> > formal path of spiritual discovery. Even though they are convinced they
> > have rejected it, and seen the truth of it for themselves, the confusion
> > around their previous path follows them around like a shadow. Sensing this
> > shadow, they are constantly denigrating it, often by attacking those they
> > perceive as accepting the same spiritual path in a less critical manner.
> >
> > This is all the "earnestly confused" have - this one insight that the
> > spiritual organization they got into bed with, was simply another dream!
> > They rail at it, and try to wake up others to this fact. They accomplished
> > something! They saw through the tmo dream! AND IT IS IMPERATIVE that they
> > convince others of this.
> >
> > However, since they are stunted on their way to spiritual freedom, and by
> > definition, continuing to dream themselves, they have nothing to offer
> > those who they are trying to wake up; the blinders leading the blind.
> >
> > And others smell this on them. These "third dreamers" become like
> > politicians, telling others the endless errors of their ways, but offering
> > nothing in return. So, unfortunately, they become lost between attempting
> > to convert others to their one insight, yet not recognizing that the
> > resistance they often encounter is not in response to their ideas, but a
> > direct response to their inauthentic vibes, the "earnest confusion", the
> > silent message they send of trying to change the beliefs of others purely
> > to make their third dream of "earnest confusion", a perfect dream for
> > themselves.
> >
> > The last person any of us are going to listen to, or take seriously is
> > someone who goes after any organization, political, economic or spiritual,
> > and clearly has no self knowledge. It Just Don't Smell Right.
> >
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