Not to mention that housing prices are beginning rise again or recoup.  
Also when I moved here 20 years ago the U-Haul guy was so happy to see 
me because he now had another truck to rent to folks fleeing.  It's a cycle.

On 01/01/2013 04:55 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> Ha! That was funny - Barry2 and I posted responses with an identical 
> timestamp!
>
> What I wanted to say too, is one thing that aids creativity is natural 
> beauty, and we have that amazing Pacific coastline here, the bays, the 
> rivers, estuaries, mountains, valleys, and it all seems to relax people.
>
> Of course, the place is full of type A personalities, especially here  in the 
> SF Bay Area, but the stress here really is dissipated by the natural 
> surroundings, making for a more laid back culture. Not that everyone is a 
> flake, either, but there is sort of this respect for differences that seems 
> to come naturally around here. Indians and Chinese, Vietnamese, Pacific 
> Islanders, Mexicans, Salvadorans, Guatemalans, Russians, Irish, Scandinavian, 
> Portuguese, you name it. No one gets up in anyone's face. And the weather 
> rocks, too. Excellent *quality* of life.
>
> --- In [email protected], doctordumbass@... <no_reply@...> wrote:
>> California has always led the rest of the country culturally, and I am sure 
>> we will be in better shape economically soon, now that Jerry Brown is 
>> Governor, again. One of the few true civil servants, that guy.
>>
>> Also, the Republicans here are almost nonexistent politically (30% maybe), 
>> so despite there still being some very sleazy Democrats, the state govt. 
>> runs more efficiently as a result.
>>
>> California's strong suit is its creativity, both in high tech and 
>> entertainment. As long as that keeps going, we'll do OK.
>>
>> --- In [email protected], "seekliberation" <seekliberation@> 
>> wrote:
>>> California is the epitome of the direction this country is going in.  It 
>>> has the highest debt of any state, with a total of over 600 billion, and 1 
>>> out of every 9 people are on food stamps.
>>>
>>> The scary part about it is that a lot of people there are moving to other 
>>> states now.  They are typically the entepreneurs and self-sufficient tax 
>>> payers.  Eventually one of two things will happen.  Either a significant # 
>>> of 'atlas' type people will be gone and the state will collapse in the same 
>>> way the US probably will.  Or the government will establish draconian 
>>> measures such as taxing people who try to leave by taxing their assets and 
>>> business they take with them.  Welcome to stage 2 of socialism.
>>>
>>> seekliberation
>>>
>>> --- In [email protected], Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote:
>>>> California has over 900.  I think in order to make a new law you need to
>>>> do away with two.  America has too many laws and it is stifling things.
>>>>
>
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