Well, it was a transcription of conversations that Raja Rogers had with Governors in the Southeast back a few years ago that some TM renegade posted to wikileaks.
Here is the full quote: Joe - Have received more calls. Someone saw a negative website. Someone else complained about the price. Raja Rogers - The great general was teaching Arjuna about all the celestial weapons and how to use them. After the training, Arjuna tried to use them. They wouldn’t work. The great general told him, “There has to be dakshina for them to work.” Dakshina is a gift, like the fruit, flowers and course fee to learn TM. For our own understanding, the technique isn’t going to work until there is dakshina. We don’t tell the general public this. In olden days, you lived in an ashram for awhile and if everything was good, then you were initiated. M has high standards. Don’t want those who just want a test drive and then drop it. People have noted that the wealthy people often don’t start a lot of time. On the other hand, there are those who don’t have much and really want to start and they find a way. Raja Rogers Meeting Notes February 6, 2007 ________________________________ From: navashok <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:09 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Speaking of puja --- In [email protected], Michael Jackson wrote: > There are others like former TM teacher Bob Fickes who say the puja > ceremony helps to refine the awareness of the initiator and gives the mantra > its potency. He has said without the puja the mantra won't have the proper > vibration or potency. That's how we were told on our TTC. That's exactly the logic given to the TM teachers at the time. > Still others, specifically Raja Badgett Rogers has said that the mantra > doesn't work unless there is the offering or dakshina of the fruit, flowers > and money, and it is the offering, the gift, that makes the mantra work and > of course the flowers and fruit are part of the puja. The logic of this, with the specific emphasis on money here in this context makes my hair stand on end, really! We weren't told this on TTC, it must be a new thing. It is a merchants attitude to God/ Spirituality. 'I give you enough money, and you render my mantra effective.' This has been called spiritual materialism by Chögyam Trungpa. Reminds me of catholic indulgence. IMO this twisting is exactly how knowledge is lost. In the same vein is the idea that scientific research 'belongs' to somebody who sponsored (bought) it, and therefore 'belongs' to him, like somebody here recently posted.
