--- In [email protected], turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "seventhray27" wrote: > > > > Barry, Jim's enlightenment is "parve". Meaning what does > > it matter,whether he is, or he isn't? > > It obviously matters a great deal to him. > > > You can go either way with it. > > Of course you can. But my point is the same as it's ever > been -- why on Earth would you choose to demean the concept > of enlightenment by assuming that someone with Jimbo's > posting history represents it?
Why on earth would you choose to demean the concept of enlightenment by assuming there was any way to tell from a person's behavior--*especially* one's posting history on an electronic forum--whether they were or were not enlightened? It appears to me that Barry cares a lot more than DrD does whether anyone thinks DrD is enlightened. > For example, I've never, ever claimed to be enlightened, > but he's claimed I have. That's called lying. Or misunderstanding what you said. If you believe > that Jimbo is enlightened, then you believe that the enlight- > ened lie. > > Jimbo has also in the past ranted that the things he says > are true by definition because he says them. Not quite what he's said, actually. The reasoning > for this, one assumes, is that the enlightened have the > ability to discern "truth." That said, he has claimed that > the Buddha -- someone who didn't believe in the concept > of God -- said "God is love." Doesn't that make you go a > little WTF? :-) I can't find that post, interestingly enough. But here's something he said about that remark (*he* seems to think he made it): "I said once that Buddha said 'God is love'. Again a positive statement, and at the time I was commenting in such a way as to make an equivalent statement about spiritual values, in the face of dogma. In other words there are many ways God can be expressed, whether or not God is God, or the Void, or Natural Law or the Universe(s), or Namaste, or whatever. The point being that it was fundamentally a positive statement about Buddha, vs. the endless negative opinions Vaj (Steve) voices about the teacher of Transcendental Meditation and its practice." http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/136025
