Is it that one can get there faster through meditation...or is it meditation is more easily accessible than to going backpacking?
When I walk dogs, I enter a similar state. So maybe I prefer a walking meditation. ****************** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > > Yes, I get to this state of mind backpacking as well, and at the beach, and > this summer, while camping and hiking in Utah.  Once I get there, which > takes several days sometimes (faster backpacking), it stays with me during > the trip.  I always try to bring the state back to my real life, but I can > never maintain it long - within hours or a day or two, it's gone.  > Meditation gets you there faster, no? > > > > >________________________________ > > From: Carol > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 10:38 AM > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people > >who brought it up - to Jim > > > > > > > >Jim stated: "It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always > >being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is > >established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to "infect" > >everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, > >destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds crazy, huh?:-)" > > > >Actually it sounds pretty nice. And it reminds me of my state of mind/body > >when I backpack. One of my goals when I backpack is to bring that state > >packing back with me when I have to re-enter the modern world. > > > >One of my mindfulness mentors has encouraged me to "touch the silence" > >daily. > > > >************ > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > >> > >> It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being > >> grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established > >> in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to "infect" everything else. > >> The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. > >> Sounds crazy, huh?:-) > >> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Carol" wrote: > >> > > >> > Jim...are you serious when you say you are enlightened? When I've read > >> > a poster on FFL claim enlightenment, I've always taken it as a sarcasm. > >> > > >> > Do certain people on FFL believe they have reached enlightenment? > >> > > >> > *********** > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > >> > > > >> > > LOL - Gotcha!! ...and I told you I had a naughty side, but you just > >> > > don't listen, do ya?...Let's try it again -- HEY BARRY, I AM > >> > > ENLIGHTENED, AND DON'T YOU **EVER** FORGET IT!!!:-) > >> > > > >> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > I grew up, and moved on. Too bad you did not, though > >> > > > > you can be lead through life however you choose. Yes, > >> > > > > I AM ENLIGHTENED, BARRY, AND DON'T YOU > >> > > > > **EVER** FORGET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!:-) > >> > > > > >> > > > I *can't* forget it, Jimbo, because I never believed > >> > > > it in the first place. Neither did *anyone else* on > >> > > > this forum. The only people you've been able to convince > >> > > > that you were enlightened were on Batgap, and you could > >> > > > convince those people that the moon was made of green > >> > > > cheese. :-) > >> > > > > >> > > > And again, I'm inviting anyone who disagrees with me > >> > > > about Jim's "enlightened" status, and who believes it, > >> > > > to chime in and agree with me. > >> > > > > >> > > > Didn't you NOTICE the last few times I mentioned this, > >> > > > and no one did? If you didn't, it might suggest that > >> > > > you have a learning diability. Just sayin'... :-) > >> > > > > >> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" wrote: > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Oh salyavin808, I am incredibly sorry I have not given > >> > > > > > > > your's and Barry's and MJ's victimization the full respect, > >> > > > > > > > adoration and drama it deserves! > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Damn, were you ever spanked by mommy, or daddy? Should we > >> > > > > > > > add that to the list?? Did you ever drop a quarter and it > >> > > > > > > > rolled under a sofa, and you couldn't get at it? THAT'S > >> > > > > > > > going on the list TOO! > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Hey, are you political? If so, please send me the number > >> > > > > > > > of times YOUR CANDIDATE lost! I am so ON it! > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I bleed for you guys. Geez, the abuses and harm and just > >> > > > > > > > plain Medieval TORTURE you, and Barry, and MJ have suffered > >> > > > > > > > at the hands of the TMO and Maharishi!!! OMG, The Holocaust > >> > > > > > > > pales in comparison! > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > MY VAST, UNENDING APOLOGIES TO ALL OF YOU HAPLESS, > >> > > > > > > > BROKEN SOULS!!! Good GOD, what was I thinking?!?! > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Cognitive dissonance. Fascinating. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > And almost completely unaware of it. All while > >> > > > > > considering himself enlightened. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > Hasn't it been fascinating to see the TMers' > >> > > > > > refusal to deal with the actual issue here, and > >> > > > > > their utter reliance on "Kill the messenger" > >> > > > > > demonization instead? > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > I have to believe that the reason is that they > >> > > > > > are still so guruwhipped that they're AFRAID to > >> > > > > > say things about the TMO or Maharishi that will > >> > > > > > be perceived as "negative." They are probably > >> > > > > > so superstitious that they think Bad Things > >> > > > > > will happen to them if they do. :-) > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
