"Meditation gets you there faster, no?" No this is a wrong notion that I see being perpetuated by everyone I hear. Meditation lets you purify your body, mind and senses so the transition is smoother, easier when the mystical energy descends. When this happens and if it indeed happens is a big question mark and has no relation to a regular meditation practice such as in my case. Two years down the line I seem to agree with Vaj that TM is an unhealthy meditation technique that can cause abnormal states of mind - better to stick with hatha yoga, pranaayama etc. So enlightenment is not an achievement. This is the problem I had with most on Batgap - what most are describing there are some altered states of consciousness created by their meditation techniques.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn wrote: > > Yes, I get to this state of mind backpacking as well, and at the beach, and this summer, while camping and hiking in Utah.  Once I get there, which takes several days sometimes (faster backpacking), it stays with me during the trip.  I always try to bring the state back to my real life, but I can never maintain it long - within hours or a day or two, it's gone.  Meditation gets you there faster, no? > > > > >________________________________ > > From: Carol > >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > >Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 10:38 AM > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the people who brought it up - to Jim > > > > > > > >Jim stated: "It is anything but a static state, first experienced as always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to "infect" everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds crazy, huh?:-)" > > > >Actually it sounds pretty nice. And it reminds me of my state of mind/body when I backpack. One of my goals when I backpack is to bring that state packing back with me when I have to re-enter the modern world. > > > >One of my mindfulness mentors has encouraged me to "touch the silence" daily. > > > >************