I find your response interesting. Ravi, I started another thread regarding enlightenment here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/333764
Would you mind commenting on that thread? (Just to keep the comments together. Hope that is an okay request here on FFL.) In your words, what is "enlightenment?" Thank you! ************* --- In [email protected], "Ravi Chivukula" wrote: > > "Meditation gets you there faster, no?" > No this is a wrong notion that I see being perpetuated by everyone I > hear. Meditation lets you purify your body, mind and senses so the > transition is smoother, easier when the mystical energy descends. When > this happens and if it indeed happens is a big question mark and has no > relation to a regular meditation practice such as in my case. Two years > down the line I seem to agree with Vaj that TM is an unhealthy > meditation technique that can cause abnormal states of mind - better to > stick with hatha yoga, pranaayama etc. So enlightenment is not an > achievement. This is the problem I had with most on Batgap - what most > are describing there are some altered states of consciousness created by > their meditation techniques. > > --- In [email protected], Emily Reyn wrote: > > > > Yes, I get to this state of mind backpacking as well, and at the > beach, and this summer, while camping and hiking in Utah.  Once I > get there, which takes several days sometimes (faster backpacking), it > stays with me during the trip.  I always try to bring the state back > to my real life, but I can never maintain it long - within hours or a > day or two, it's gone.  Meditation gets you there faster, no? > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > From: Carol > > >To: [email protected] > > >Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2013 10:38 AM > > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge: Talk about the issue, not the > people who brought it up - to Jim > > > > > > > > > > > >Jim stated: "It is anything but a static state, first experienced as > always being grounded in the Self, or permanent silence. Once a person > is established in Silence within, the enlightenment begins to "infect" > everything else. The Silence within can no longer be overshadowed, > destroyed, or disrupted. Sounds crazy, huh?:-)" > > > > > >Actually it sounds pretty nice. And it reminds me of my state of > mind/body when I backpack. One of my goals when I backpack is to bring > that state packing back with me when I have to re-enter the modern > world. > > > > > >One of my mindfulness mentors has encouraged me to "touch the > silence" daily. > > > > > >************ >
