--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > I was not confused by it, since my first (dirty) witnessing > experiences were on residence courses, and they faded about > a day after the course. I was not ever told that this state > was permanent, if experienced. Just the opposite.
Yes, same here. > Shit, its been 40 years for Bee since the TM daze - He just > doesn't remember accurately. It's never clear whether Barry is remembering inaccurately, or is just making stuff up to support whatever putdown he's indulging in. I suspect the latter in this case. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > (snip) > > > Bahd idea, as Ahnold might say. For many of them, the > > > experiences soon faded, and they would have been thought > > > of as fools or liars if they *admitted* that they had > > > faded, because within the TM org at that time, it was > > > *assumed* that if you experienced CC, it was PERMANENT. > > > > Could this have been one of those "secret teachings" > > divulged only to TM teachers? Because it was always my > > understanding that one could slip into and out of the > > experience of any state of consciousness, although at > > some point a particular state supposedly became > > permanent. > > > > After all, "witnessing" is said to be a temporary state > > of CC; CC is said to be a permanent state of witnessing. > > > > I learned TM in 1975; was the concept of witnessing as > > a temporary state something that was introduced after > > Barry's time but before mine? > > > > Genuinely curious here. > > >
