http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl2-bu0XK-4

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> >
> > Ever notice how ego-maniacs end up looking like masochists,
> > due to their arrogance? lol. ya can't make this stuff up folks!
> 
> I've wondered whether Barry actually gets some kind of
> twisted pleasure out of being repeatedly humiliated. He's
> smart enough to avoid it and still get his points across,
> so he must find it rewarding somehow.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I was not confused by it, since my first (dirty) witnessing 
> > > > experiences were on residence courses, and they faded about
> > > > a day after the course. I was not ever told that this state
> > > > was permanent, if experienced. Just the opposite.
> > > 
> > > Yes, same here.
> > > 
> > > > Shit, its been 40 years for Bee since the TM daze - He just
> > > > doesn't remember accurately.
> > > 
> > > It's never clear whether Barry is remembering inaccurately,
> > > or is just making stuff up to support whatever putdown he's
> > > indulging in. I suspect the latter in this case.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > Bahd idea, as Ahnold might say. For many of them, the
> > > > > > experiences soon faded, and they would have been thought
> > > > > > of as fools or liars if they *admitted* that they had 
> > > > > > faded, because within the TM org at that time, it was
> > > > > > *assumed* that if you experienced CC, it was PERMANENT.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Could this have been one of those "secret teachings"
> > > > > divulged only to TM teachers? Because it was always my
> > > > > understanding that one could slip into and out of the
> > > > > experience of any state of consciousness, although at
> > > > > some point a particular state supposedly became
> > > > > permanent.
> > > > > 
> > > > > After all, "witnessing" is said to be a temporary state
> > > > > of CC; CC is said to be a permanent state of witnessing.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I learned TM in 1975; was the concept of witnessing as
> > > > > a temporary state something that was introduced after
> > > > > Barry's time but before mine?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Genuinely curious here.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
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