Dear Share, putting forth effort to communicate with those that think differently from you is never pointless, IMHO. I find it instructive; it gives me an opportunity to learn different ways to relate, build self-respect, and Why don't you think I "get you?" Can you provide me with a specific example? In the example you cite, I didn't respond, Ann did, yet you wrapped me in to that post. You might be surprised at what I might "get," if you would be willing to try to engage honestly. I will do my best to be honest as well. You say you "probably don't get Ann or I either." What do you mean when you say "probably?"
>________________________________ > From: Share Long <sharelon...@yahoo.com> >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:55 PM >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL > > > >I was reflecting back to Xeno what he himself expressed. Nice try though. >Face it, Ann, you and Emily just don't get me at all. And probably I don't >get you two either. That's why I generally choose not to engage with you two. > It's pointless. > > > > > > >________________________________ > From: Ann <awoelfleba...@yahoo.com> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:48 PM >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL > > > > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: >> >> Glad result was non malignant. Even though on one level malignant would >> have been ok too > >And you really, experientially believe that? That you could pull off that >statement when faced with that kind of grim diagnosis? I say very, very few >people could stand there and shrug it off, no corresponding shot of adrenaline >hitting you like a sledgehammer as you hear those words. Just standing there >with a sublime, accepting beatific expression on your face thinking, "This is >ok too..." >> >> For me that not worrying is also a kind of almost dumb trustingness. So >> there is an emotional quality to it but not mushy gushy emotions like >> before. Because every emotion contains its opposite. Like two waves >> canceling each other out. They both are still there, only still, vibrating >> with possibility. At first it can seem very odd indeed, but then it's >> fun. And a blessing. What a great gift it has been for me to have a >> sense of humor emerge just as the body is falling apart (-: >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius >> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 3:10 PM >> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Capitalization, on FFL >> >> >>  >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: >> > >> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: >> > > >> > > Xeno, I bet you can appreciate this: last week my best friend and I >> > > were laughing our heads off because we both thought we were having heart >> > > attacks. On the same day! >> > >> > > But you perhaps unintentionally raise a good question: is it better to >> > > live miserably or die happily? Meanwhile I say enjoy the cunning >> > > philosophers who think up such questions to entertain the body mind on a >> > > wintry day. >> > >> > > But Xeno what about this sentence: The cat is the cat. Such a sentence >> > > seems to be self contained and thus not needing any sensory experience >> > > to support its validity. Its internal logic validates it. >> > >> > Yes, this is a tautology. A statement that is always true. Self >> > validating. The form is 'x = x'. X can be anything, real or imaginary. It >> > is not a proposition because it expresses nothing. It is empty. Like >> > enlightenment, 'selling water by the river' as the Zen master said. True, >> > but nothing to it. >> > >> > > Which is kind of what happens with Beingness. It is self validating. >> > > There is simply the living of it. Yes, it is very difficult to put into >> > > words. And I do think a lot of long term TMers are at this stage now. >> > > They are simply living Beingness. With little or no thinking about it. >> > > And they are experiencing it as the most ordinary thing there is. The >> > > most transparent thing there is. Both the most strong and the most >> > > vulnerable thing there is. And then one can only laugh one's head off >> > > at the absurdity of it all. Which I think FFL perfectly mirrors (-: >> > >> > Indeed. >> > >> Additionally (I wrote something earlier and Yahoo's software sent my >> response into the aether and giving me an error message), there is the >> phrase 'The Absolute Being' (appropriately and imposingly captialised), >> which as we become spiritually aware, instigates a search far and wide for >> that which is at all times in plain sight, hidden in total obviousness, as >> we puff ourselves up with our discoveries along the path which we think is >> there. Finally, the bubble bursts and all is well. >> >> Speaking of heart attacks. I was in the hospital the other week. A biopsy. >> The following week I went to the doctor's office, as they had not called. A >> nurse, the 'clinical supervisor' had to figure out the results from the >> report as the doctor was on vacation. I do not know what she was thinking, >> but I was just standing there knowing that the result was either malignant >> or not malignant, but it did not matter which because one result or the >> other was the only outcome, and which ever one, the course that followed was >> inevitable and there was no arguing with either way. This is why it is >> called 'the absolute being'. As it turned out, it was not malignant, but >> still there might be some consequences, which I have not yet been told. The >> mind did not go into a routine like 'oh no, I hope it is not that'. I was >> just standing there thinking, 'this is really fascinating, I wonder which >> way it will be!', as if there was some new discovery about life to unfold. >> >> The absence of worry about the future seems to be one of the major benefits >> of spirituality as it matures, not because you believe something will be a >> certain way, but because there really is no choice about which way will >> manifest. You just get to live the way it goes, and the mind no longer >> imposes its interpretation (at least most of the time), on the situation >> coming forward. Rather the mind becomes a tool to navigate what is happening >> rather than an obstacle to what is happening, resiting what is transpiring >> in an attempt to maintain an unrealistic world view. >> > > > > > > >
