I think it's sort of the myth that Michael has created for himself and seems pretty stubborn about shaking loose from it. Perhaps it's because he's a relative newbee, that he thinks we're a pretty fragile lot here. Probably better to try to perpetuate the myth for his sake.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... <no_reply@...> wrote: > > "Have not and will not share all he told me because if I did folks like Dr D and Nabby would have apoplexy." > > Are you f*cking kidding me, Mikey?? What would you like to *shock* me with? > > I had been around the block many, many times before I began TM, at the not so tender age of 21, and began hearing about Maharishi. That was nearly 38 years ago, and I have lived many lifetimes since. > > Please do not hold back your tales of woe and deceit on my account. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: > > > > I never did it for what other people thought and if everyone gits tired of me bein' here, all they gotta do it ask the moderator to kick me off and off I will go. > > > > As to how much further I can take it, I dunno cuz before a couple weeks ago I thought my opinion of Marshy could go no lower till I spoke with Mark Landau on the phone and some of the things he told me made the hair stand up on the back of my neck. > > > > So yes, Ravi it was Mark - and no we are not friends, just acquaintances - he mentioned in his BATGAP interview with Rick that both Marshy and TM had a dark side and Rick said let's come back to that, but they never did. I was curious what he meant by that and e-mailed him asking. He replied it would be easier to just tell me on the phone and I called him. Talked a little over half an hour. Have not and will not share all he told me because if I did folks like Dr D and Nabby would have apoplexy. > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Ann awoelflebater@ > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 9:56 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted > > > > > > Â > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > On second thought, you are right Dr Dummy - I hereby announce that I officially revoke everything I said about Marshy and TM and I am gonna program my Ipod to play only that goddamn funny, funny Maharishi Vedic Honey video over and over and over - I hope one day to wear the white (meaning become a raja) Jai Guru Dr. Dumbass!!! > > > > Hey MJ. I will throw my small thought into the mix here. I have read and appreciated much of what you have written of your experiences at MIU, within the various phases of your different roles within the Movement as a meditator, member of staff and all the other ways in which you participated. I especially enjoyed reading what you had to say a few months ago when you first started posting about your disappointment/disillusionment/disgruntlement with MMY and with many others in positions of power and authority within the TMM. Although I was a meditator for almost 20 years and graduated from MIU I have no hard feelings about my time there or the technique. However, this does not stop me from considering all that you have to say about your own, very different, experience. And it does not mean I don't respect and consider all that you have to say as far as I can do that without having gone through or seen what you did. > > > > I am not sure how much further you can go with your unearthing of the slimier aspects of what has gone on within the movement and around MMY and even with MMY himself. I, for one, have a pretty clear picture of what you know and how you feel. Your audience has been reading what you have to say for weeks now and I am pretty sure we could, individually, write an essay on how MJ feels about MMY and the Movement and the practice of TM. What is happening now is that some are getting tired of reading, of being exposed to, what is starting to sound a little like a broken record. What you have to say isn't going anywhere past where it has been for a while now. It is evidently important to you to use this forum, and other places, as a sounding board for how you feel. But it seems as if you are having to defend your position a little harder now, that there is not the same empathy or support for your position. It seems you are starting to look like a man standing > > alone on a hilltop defending his patch of land to an ever-increasing number of those unsympathetic to your 'cause'. > > > > I am not saying that what you have to say is less valid than it was three months ago it is just that if you test the wind direction and the barometer it is telling you your audience here is not quite as receptive to your message as it once was. This is, of course, only my opinion. I respect your need to voice how you feel and admire your courage to do just that but I think I have gotten the message now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: "doctordumbass@" > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 8:35 PM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] TM Critics on FFL - the blind "leading" the sighted > > > > > > > > > ÃÂ > > > Just such a strange thing, that the fiercest critics of TM on here, are those with no recent experience of the technique. Sure, they had their heyday - a few decades ago. > > > > > > Now, looking back hazily on those times, they stand up as those to be believed, the DEFINITIVE VOICES regarding the technique, its founder, and any other pearls that spew forth. Its just so much tripe. > > > > > > Being ordinarily skeptical, doubting stuff I am told, is second nature to me - an excellent survival tool, imo. So I can appreciate airing doubts about...anything. However, how long does it take to integrate something THAT YOU NO LONGER PRACTICE into your life? Why the public fixation on something that no longer has value to you? > > > > > > Are you warning us? (how condescending) > > > > > > Are you saving us? (how laughable) > > > > > > Are you opening our eyes? (see above) > > > > > > Why are you *devoting* your time and thought, to something you no longer do? > > > > > > Color me Puzzled. > > > > > >