None of that really seems to matter. There are many developing countries where 
TM is clearly popular. So if it less desirable in one culture, it will be more 
popular in another. Are you familiar with global economics at all?? Same 
principle, different need.

If you want to continue as the little Dutch boy with his finger in the dike, 
please do, but you are wasting your time. 

These little impotent rants of yours have accomplished absolutely nothing over 
the years, in terms of whether of not TM is popular. You have dissuaded exactly 
zero people from doing TM. No impact at all.

Do you know why you have failed? It is simple. Dissuading others was never the 
objective. These rants of yours have a lot more to do with Barry, than they do 
with Maharishi, TM, John Hagelin, Raja Ram, The Ganges, India, The TM Sidhis 
program, The Domes, Mantras, Bevan Morris, Jyotish, Vedanta, and whatever else 
you have ranted against these last twenty years.

As to what it might be about you, Barry, that needs this obsessive focus on 
something you don't impact at all, I have no idea. But I do know with absolute 
certainty that it has nothing to do with Maharishi, TM, John Hagelin, Raja Ram, 
The Ganges, India, The TM Sidhis program, The Domes, Mantras, Bevan Morris, 
Jyotish, Vedanta, and whatever else you have ranted against these last twenty 
years.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > > On 03/03/2013 07:26 AM, merlin wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://kennethwestlee.com/2013/02/28/transcendental-meditation-becoming-popular-again/
> > > >    
> > > > [snip]
> > > > Then I discovered TM (Transcendental Meditation). The 
> > > > first thing I learned was, The Beatles did it. Then I 
> > > > learned Jim Carey, Russell Brand, Oprah Winfrey, Ellen 
> > > > DeGeneres, Russell Simmons, Clint Eastwood, Dr. Oz, 
> > > > and lots of CEOs of Fortune 500 companies practice 
> > > > and advocate like mad for TM.
> > 
> > One of the things that amazes me about the people who
> > keep forwarding articles like this is that they don't
> > seem to realize that everyone on their lists of "famous"
> > meditators is OLD AS FUCK.
> > 
> > The youngest on this list is Russell Brand, at 38. Ellen
> > DeGeneris is 55. Dr. Oz is 53. Oprah is 59. Jim Carrey 
> > is 51. The Beatles are so old that many people under the
> > age of 25 have never heard of them. 
> > 
> > Put aside the absurdity of deciding to learn a technique
> > of meditation because a famous person says so. That's so
> > retarded as not to require comment. But to pretend that
> > TM is "becoming popular again" when the only people they
> > can come up with to shill for it are OLD AND IN THE WAY,
> > and in many cases old enough to be the parents, grand-
> > parents, and (with the Beatles) even great-grandparents
> > of kids these days? That's kinda pathetic. 
> > 
> > Try to imagine TMers trying to pitch this shit to people
> > of high school age or early college age who may well have 
> > heard of NONE of these people, let alone be impressed by 
> > what they might think of anything. Kids these days would
> > look at them as if they were insane. And with reason.
> 
> Seriously, am I the only person here who has noticed
> that there is something seriously OFF about the TMO's
> marketing campaign? 
> 
> Its *entire* focus is to attract OLD people, OLD people
> with MONEY, and to entice them to contribute money so
> that TM can be *imposed* on either young people who have
> no interest in it because it's less hip that bell-bottom
> pants, or "people at risk" who are in prison, suffering
> from PTSD, or otherwise impaired?
> 
> And *this* is the technique/philosophy that is going to
> "change the world," and make it a better place? Isn't
> that a process that traditionally falls to the *youth*
> of a nation to do?
> 
> Suppose that when you were a teen or a young adult some
> OLD people had come along and, in your schools or wherever
> it might have been taught, had *imposed* TM on you? What
> do you think would be the likelihood of you still being
> a TMer? And yet THAT is what the people who keep touting
> the TMO's marketing scheme seem to believe, or at the
> very least, profess to believe. 
> 
> Me, I kinda think that these are the fantasies of OLD 
> people who cannot relate to young people *at all*, and 
> as a result base all of their sales pitches on an appeal
> to OLD people like themselves, trying to get them to "do
> what is right" for all these poor, young folks who aren't
> OLD enough or smart enough to make decisions for themselves.
> 
> Yeah, THAT sure worked with "Just Say No" and other such
> OLD PERSON fantasies trying to impose themselves on my 
> generation. I cannot help but believe it's going to be 
> just about as successful with a new generation.
>

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