--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@...> wrote: > > But you don't need TM to do that
TM makes it very easy and systematic. The instructions are designed to keep you from getting in your own way. > - so what about TM mantras are special? Cuz if it isn't the > mantras, you can't seriously think the simple instructions > given in the checking notes for example are responsible for > TM being superior to all other meditation methods? This is funny, Michael. Both Mike and I just got done saying we do think it's the instructions; and I explained why it wasn't the mantras (even told you how to check for yourself). But here you are asking the same question all over again as if neither of us had said a word, as if we were going to give you a different answer. The answer doesn't change just because it isn't what you want to hear, Michael. > ________________________________ > From: Mike Dixon <mdixon.6569@...> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 4:08 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders > > > Â > Correct, the actual instructions on meditation are simply like taking the > correct angle on a diving board. Once the correct angle is reached, natural > law(gravity) does the rest, you fall into the water. Once the mantra is > thought effortlessly, the process of transcending begins. Making any effort > at that point,holding onto or changing the rhythm, etc. stops the process of > transcending. If we feel like we are *forgetting* the mantra, we let it go > because that is when we are transcending. That *gap* between forgetting the > mantra and a new thought arising is when we transcended. With practice, that > gap gets more and more noticeable, to the point of no mantra and no thought, > just silence, awareness of awareness. > > From: authfriend <authfriend@...> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 12:11 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders > > Â > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: > > > > Natural effortlessness. > > Bingo. Or more precisely, the specific instructional > method Maharishi created (right down to the instruction > to "Sit easily" rather than "Relax" at the start of > checking). > > (The puja may be part of it as well--some TM teachers > would say so, at any rate.) > > But the mantras TM uses are just plain ol' garden-variety > bija mantras. Do a search for "bija mantra" (or "beeja" > or "beej"), Michael, you'll find 'em all over the Web. > They're said to be especially powerful, but they're not > unique to TM. > > > ________________________________ > > From: Michael Jackson > > To: "mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"; > > mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 10:31 AM > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders > > > > ÃÂ > > > > Oh come on - Marshy always said TM was better than other meditations - for > > that to be true, the particular set of mantras have to be superior to all > > others. If not, what would then make TM better than other meditations? > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: sparaig > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 1:12 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders > > > > ÃÂ > > All MMY claimed about TM mantras was: 1) they are not om or some other > > monk-oriented mantra (if there are any, in his mind); 2) he deemed them to > > be suitable for householders; 3) some mantras were more suitable for some > > people than than others, and he chose a simple set that was reasonably > > beneficial for anyone, though each was presumably more beneficial for some > > people than others. MMY never claimed to be the ultimate expert on such > > matters. The impression he gave was that he intuited a few things from the > > tradition that he thought were most important and made them part of the TM > > canon. L --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation" > > wrote: > > They are superior in that if you pay for them, it fills up the > > TMO's pockets with more money. More money = Superior. > > seekliberation > > > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > > My question is, if the TM mantras are superior, how are they > > superior? > > > > > >
