Oh you cute little weasel, you - You're off spinning your BS, and when I call you on it, I'm a dick?
OK, Curtis, we'll play this, according to "Curtis logic": I just heard that red lights NOW MEAN "GO". Really, its true because I said it is, and I have experience with traffic lights, and if you propose a reason that I may be pulling this out of my butt, it means you are attacking me personally. I'm sorry, Curtis, but I overwhelmingly favor reality. Sincerely, Your Dick --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@...> wrote: > > Without anything specific to refute or correct the old personal attacks > again... > > Check out Judy's response which has many good points of challenge for me to > think about. What have you accomplished here other than to appear like a > dick? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Just like Barry, Curtis has his secret stash of data, on the rest of us, > > scrupulously compiled with a wounded and fearful heart. > > > > Every time Curtis gets bent out of shape, he starts up with his, "maybe red > > is blue", act, and determines all sorts of "scientific truths" about TM and > > Maharishi, from his crippled emotional state. > > > > He and Barry need therapy. Sorry guys - I have come across a lot of dense > > old men - those continuously ready to see the problem always "out there", > > propped up by a bloated ego. And it gets really tiresome. > > > > I get the oddest picture when Barry and Curtis team up - a couple of > > spinster aunts. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn" <emilymae.reyn@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Does meditation work to balance out the chemical makeup of > > > > > one's physiology? Does it release our natural feel good > > > > > chemicals within the body? Or, maintain balanced levels > > > > > of serotonin, dopamine, etc. > > > > > > > > My experience with TM meditation and its associated practices > > > > is that it is a way to hijack our usual brain reward system > > > > for achievement in our lives. > > > > > > Maybe this should say, "...it is a way to hijack my usual > > > brain reward system for achievement in my life," since this > > > is your personal experience. > > > > > > > And this was Maharishi's stated goal, fulfillment divorced > > > > from achievement. > > > > > > When did he say this? Do you have a quote? Was this one > > > of the "secret teachings" just for teachers? Because I > > > sure don't remember having heard him say it. > > > > > > Anybody else remember Maharishi saying this was his goal? > > > > > > > If you keep mediating you cultivate the mind to trigger > > > > highly pleasurable states. It becomes very addictive. > > > > Many meditators show signs of extreme irritation if they > > > > miss a mediation once they get hooked on it just like > > > > any other addict. > > > > > > How many meditators show this? What percentage would you > > > say? And how have you determined this? > > > > > > In what follows, you shift back and forth from statements > > > about your personal experience to general statements as to > > > how TM affects people in general. With regard to the latter, > > > could you explain how you've determined that these are > > > effects common to everyone who practices TM? (Or meditation > > > in general, depending on which you mean, which you don't > > > always specify.) > > > > > > I ask because none of what you describe resembles my > > > own experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So IMO mediation can become a problem like any other form of hijacking > > > > the pleasure states, meant to reward our species for doing things that > > > > promote our survival or express our creativity. I believe there is no > > > > neuronal free lunch, every pleasure state has a cost. > > > > > > > > Of course this is a highly heretical view in circles where regular > > > > meditation and more meditation are both seen as only positives. But > > > > for me the balance is trickier. I use meditation when I need some of > > > > what it does for my brain, but regular meditation just leads to me > > > > getting hooked on the mental states it produces. And for me these > > > > states do not produce my optimum functioning. > > > > > > > > They are as advertized, very charming to our minds. But they can > > > > easily lead to an end in themselves since our brains are inherently > > > > lazy and getting the quick reward is neurologically preferred. > > > > Unfortunately that does not lead to my fullest creative potential any > > > > more than hitting the slot lever again and again. Although they say > > > > that meditation is a preparation for activity, and I don't doubt that > > > > for really impulsive people it is a real benefit, for people like me > > > > who have perhaps cultivated this functioning a bit too much, it can > > > > become a real distraction. I get a lot more done with my eyes opened! > > > > > > > > This understanding is still just a work in progress. I am fascinated > > > > that some like Barry maintain that other forms of meditation do no > > > > exhibit some of what I see as downsides of TM's passive bliss states > > > > style. > > > > > >
