--- In [email protected], "curtisdeltablues" <curtisdeltablues@...> 
wrote:
>
> But what if you wish for something really really hard, then I think it could 
> come true, right?
> 
> Like one time I wished on a star for ten days straight for something I 
> really, really wanted and on the eleventh day do you know what happened?
> 
> A 12 inch pianist knocked on my door.

I don't get it.
> 
> I figure God's wish spell check app sucks as badly as ours does, but I still 
> consider it a proof of concept even if it wasn't exactly what I was asking 
> for.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" <anartaxius@> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], Emily Reyn <emilymae.reyn@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Read the book and get back to me...your research is perhaps not 
> > > comprehensive enough......"There are two ways to be fooled.  One is to 
> > > believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true." 
> > > - Soren Kierkegaard
> > > 
> > 
> > Only *two* ways to be fooled? You are overly optimistic. Delusion is a 
> > primary human characteristic.
> > 
> > I have not read this book, probably have not the time. I read another one 
> > though - 'the Spiritual Doorway in the Brain' by Kevin Nelson, a 
> > neurologist who has been studying this phenomenon for some 30 years. He 
> > came to a different conclusion:
> > 
> > Some comments on the Alexander book by others:
> > 
> > http://www.salon.com/2012/11/26/dr_eben_alexanders_so_called_after_life/
> > 
> > http://www.realitysandwich.com/when_proof_not_enough_eben_alexander
> > 
> > http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/science-on-the-brink-of-death
> > 
> > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1385027/Revealed-The-truth-near-death-experiences.html
> > 
> > I tend to think life after death is an idiotic concept if one is attempting 
> > to be 'spiritual'.
> > 
> > All experiences require consciousness. That is what the 'spirit' in 
> > 'spiritual' is. It is associated with every possible experience, and it 
> > does not matter if you can come up with a definition for it or not, we all 
> > have it. If it was not there, zero experience. No matter what experience, 
> > consciousness is there, pure existential value. Spiritually this what we 
> > are. This is our location. It does not matter what the experience is or 
> > where it seems to be, the consciousness is there as its container so to 
> > speak. Nothing outside of it can be an experience or knowable. Therefore it 
> > is meaningless to discuss other places one can be. One's life is just this 
> > sparkling whatever it is that makes experience possible. It is always where 
> > you are, because it is you. The other you, the 'me' is just a story inside 
> > this container that makes life knowable. Its a selective, quirky narrative 
> > about the relationships within the larger container of experience, and that 
> > narrative typically borders on insanity.
> > 
> > The people who have NDEs are alive. People who are dead tell us nothing. 
> > That is the logical gap that makes evaluation of this situation impossible 
> > to resolve.
> > 
> > Note that about 10% of NDE experiences recorded are hellish.
> > 
> > Perhaps the attitude one has toward this issue is related to the answer to 
> > this question: 'Are you afraid to die?' My experience is that people who 
> > believe in an afterlife often seem very fearful of death. They believe they 
> > are going to a much better place, but seem to have a strong resistance to 
> > be in that better place.
> >
>


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