No question they were self-medication.  But a personality that
strong has a very hard time resisting the slippery slope to addiction.
He could never do anything part-way, whether it was TM, journeys
to India, or drugs.  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Cliff" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > No, Judy.  He was on heroin when he had the experience, which 
> was
> > > > quite some time before the course where he related the 
> > experience to
> > > > Maharishi.
> > > > 
> > > > I knew Jay quite well for many years - spent a few years on long
> > > > rounding courses with him.  He was one of the most manic-
> > depressive
> > > > people I've ever known.
> > > 
> > > Had he been diagnosed as manic-depressive, and if so,
> > > was he under treatment for it, do you know?  (Just
> > > curious.)
> > > 
> > > <snip>
> > > > I don't doubt his experience of realization.  I also don't 
> doubt 
> > > > that he fell into a totally black pit shortly after that.  I 
> > think 
> > > > he threw himself into the TM technique and TMO in a desperate 
> > > > attempt to stabilize himself - to literally save himself from 
> > > > himself.  Turns out that we're the only ones who can save 
> > > > ourselves.  That must have been a very tough realization 
> > > > for Jay.
> > > 
> > > What do you think he could have done to save himself?>>>
> > 
> > Calming down and taking it easy and getting off alcahol and drugs
> 
> Without knowing anything about him but what's been
> said here, I'd wonder if the drugs and alcohol 
> weren't an attempt to self-medicate.




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