--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@...> wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:50 AM, seventhray27 <steve.sundur@...>wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > > > > > > "Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. " > > > > > > I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend over > > > backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway. > > > > You crack me up Ravi. You fashion yourself as such a champion of women > > in the virtual world. Too bad it played out so badly in the 3D world. But > > of course, as you so often say, "the fault was all on my ex" > > > > Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality - > virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault was > my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she remains as > stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's just a > fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because I > say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still love my > ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her > delusions. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal (well > except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least one > of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and empathetic I > will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist mind > you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to learn > empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I said > courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track to > learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex was > my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light. > > Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some > relief.
Of course you didn't owe Steve squat here Ravi. He used something personal in your life, inappropriately, to try and 'get' you even though it has dick all to do with the subject anyone is discussing. It is, in my opinion, a silly person's way to try and prolong an argument. But you rose to the insult and responded with sincerity and gave more to Steve in your answer than he bargained for and it makes him look bad as a result. That is a good way to respond to inappropriate and unjustified attacks even though I don't think your intention with what you wrote above was to do that. More power to you Rav. And what you wrote about your experience with your ex giving you more empathy, her acting, inadvertently, as a sort of guru in your life because you became wise and more feeling in some ways, speaks right into my experience with Robin all those years ago. I became a much better person, more loving, more compassionate, wiser after emerging from the experience (as hard as some of it was) and so Robin was my great 'guru' after all. > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't have > > > > even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to pay > > > > "particular attention" to that verse and then put forth the "gang rape" > > > > description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to > > showing > > > > it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could have > > been > > > > talking about "consensual" activities in where the woman was enjoying > > be > > > > attended to "down in the pines" (and I paraphrase), which is a > > humorous and > > > > more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. > > > > > > > > Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that affect. > > > > > > > > I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden > > messages > > > > and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be > > > > understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume > > incorrectly > > > > what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you - no > > > > harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my post > > back > > > > to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - "gang rape" > > reminded > > > > me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word rape and > > > > then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just > > riffin' - > > > > don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my > > tendency to > > > > amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. > > > > > > > > But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as I do > > > > appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting song > > and > > > > very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation - by > > > > you? > > > > > > > > Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this forum. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ > > > > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM > > > > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. > > > > > > > > It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. > > > > > > > > But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll and > > > > your posting intentions are unfriendly. > > > > > > > > You think you are "getting" a person Judy does not like and winning her > > > > approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow > > agenda. > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing empathy > > but > > > > this > > > > > one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person asking > > these > > > > > questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational for > > even > > > > > trying to communicate that, viz "I have no idea why you write any of > > > > this" > > > > > - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or psychopathy? > > > > > > > > > > Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. > > > > > > > > > > "Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by the > > gang > > > > > rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to post it > > or I > > > > > should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang > > rape - > > > > in > > > > > this day and age one should always be aware that there could be some > > who > > > > > would get affected by that, especially victims and family members of > > > > > victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had no > > > > > intentions to PR you, my intentions was just to share some music > > with a > > > > > fellow music-lover and in retrospect I should have known that some > > people > > > > > may have found it offensive. I hope you are feeling better." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is "to be > > > > > > understood by other people here," it doesn't seem that > > > > > > he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked > > > > > > him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention > > > > > > to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out > > > > > > her context as if it had never existed. > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he > > > > > > respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be > > > > > > disturbed? > > > > > > > > > > > > Man, there are very creepy things going on on this > > > > > > forum lately. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no idea why you would write any of this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no > > meaning > > > > > > directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting > > music > > > > with > > > > > > another music lover. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To be clear: There are no hidden messages or meanings directed > > toward > > > > > > you by any music I ever shared with you on this board, ever. There > > are > > > > no > > > > > > hidden messages toward you in anything I have ever written to you > > > > here. I > > > > > > have tried to be clear about what I meant at all times because my > > goal > > > > is > > > > > > to be understood by other people here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets chill on sharing music. It apparently isn't working. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn" > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Curtis: Hey, I was just responding to Xeno on his > > psychological > > > > rape > > > > > > > > post and this spontaneously came off my fingertips: > > > > > > > > "nor did I [feel psychologically raped] recently, when Curtis > > > > referred > > > > > > > > me to the gang rape lyrics of a song he posted. I probably > > should > > > > have > > > > > > > > then, come to think about it, but I just figured I had crossed > > his > > > > > > > > boundary again, unknowingly, like I did the first time. I was > > > > teasing > > > > > > > > him; he got angry...." > > > > > > > > God bless it, were you trying to publicly PR me? Did I not > > pick up > > > > on > > > > > > > > that? I'm kind of slow on the uptake sometimes, it's true. You > > > > never > > > > > > > > did explain to me why you referred me to the lyrics you did. > > If you > > > > > > > > were, than I say "Fuck you, man, fuck you." If you weren't than > > > > maybe > > > > > > > > you could explain it to me. Am I right in my assumption above? > > > > > > > > I know you ain't a country guy, in terms of music, but here's a > > > > song > > > > > > > > from George Jones - RIP, that may bring you back to a > > performance > > > > > > period > > > > > > > > that would be best left forever. > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
