Thank you dear Ann - yes you are absolutely right, she indeed , inadvertently became my Guru. In fact even though I spent a lot of time in Amma's cult I never formed any delusional fantasies on Amma as the Guru or the divine Mother. My crime, apparently was that I wanted to love my ex and was willing to do anything to understand her, to change myself so she could understand my love for her - which turned out to be a futile exercise - in terms of making her understand but a tremendous transformation in her. As I was telling my friend - 10 years after my marriage one day I realized I was a dramatically different person yet she remained as stunted as she was if not worse.
It's a funny comparison with whole of Amma's cult - here everyone's trapped in a religious, delusional fantasy around her as the Guru, as the divine Mother and there I was, just trying to love my ex. I transcended whereas they all remain stunted. How ironical? Steve doesn't spend any effort and intelligence understanding the entire context of any given situation - his posts are just careless, reactive, frivolous posts and now he has really turned into an obnoxious,moronic troll. He always latches on to my posts, there's nothing much I can do make him stop acting like, as Barry would say, an attention vampire. He has gotten worse since he latched on to that phony, passive-aggressive Share and now he has to defend at her any cost - even if comes at the expense of his intelligence and integrity. Contrast his behavior with women here who unlike Share are mature, intelligent and strong. On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Ann <awoelfleba...@yahoo.com> wrote: > ** > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@...> > wrote: > > > > On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:50 AM, seventhray27 <steve.sundur@...>wrote: > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula wrote: > > > > > > > > "Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this > forum. " > > > > > > > > I don't apologize to men, most anyway - sorry. But yes - I do bend > over > > > > backwards to apologize to women, well most anyway. > > > > > > You crack me up Ravi. You fashion yourself as such a champion of women > > > in the virtual world. Too bad it played out so badly in the 3D world. > But > > > of course, as you so often say, "the fault was all on my ex" > > > > > > > Hey Steve baby - newsflash - you only know me virtually. If reality - > > virtual and/or 3D - can match your fantasy. I never said all the fault > was > > my ex, just that I could identify and work on my faults and she remains > as > > stunted as she was, nor do I claim I am a champion of women - it's just a > > fantasy of yours. I am just expressing my love for women, just because I > > say my ex is stunted doesn't invalidate my love for women, I still love > my > > ex too - just that I will never live with her again or support her > > delusions. Anyway you already know I don't treat any man as my equal > (well > > except for one) - so my friends are all women, if you can get at least > one > > of them to say that Ravi is the not one of the most loving and > empathetic I > > will concede defeat. In fact just last week one of them, a therapist mind > > you - asked me how I learnt empathy, that she had to train herself to > learn > > empathy and that she almost knew no man who was as empathetic as me, I > said > > courtesy of my life, especially with my ex - I was put on fast track to > > learn and express empathy. This may surprise you - I tell people my ex > was > > my Guru - of course that still puts her in a very bad light. > > > > Good luck with your delusional fantasies - I hope they provide you some > > relief. > > Of course you didn't owe Steve squat here Ravi. He used something personal > in your life, inappropriately, to try and 'get' you even though it has dick > all to do with the subject anyone is discussing. It is, in my opinion, a > silly person's way to try and prolong an argument. But you rose to the > insult and responded with sincerity and gave more to Steve in your answer > than he bargained for and it makes him look bad as a result. That is a good > way to respond to inappropriate and unjustified attacks even though I don't > think your intention with what you wrote above was to do that. More power > to you Rav. > > And what you wrote about your experience with your ex giving you more > empathy, her acting, inadvertently, as a sort of guru in your life because > you became wise and more feeling in some ways, speaks right into my > experience with Robin all those years ago. I became a much better person, > more loving, more compassionate, wiser after emerging from the experience > (as hard as some of it was) and so Robin was my great 'guru' after all. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Curtis, I actually wouldn't have interpreted it this way. Wouldn't > have > > > > > even occurred to me, honestly. *You* are the one who asked me to > pay > > > > > "particular attention" to that verse and then put forth the "gang > rape" > > > > > description yourself as to how *you* had interpreted it, prior to > > > showing > > > > > it to your girlfriend who had made the point that the song could > have > > > been > > > > > talking about "consensual" activities in where the woman was > enjoying > > > be > > > > > attended to "down in the pines" (and I paraphrase), which is a > > > humorous and > > > > > more pleasant way to interpret it, I must agree. > > > > > > > > > > Carol also thought it was about gang rape and commented to that > affect. > > > > > > > > > > I am glad to hear that there were and have never been any hidden > > > messages > > > > > and meanings in what you've ever communicated to me. I like to be > > > > > understood as well and don't appreciate it when others' assume > > > incorrectly > > > > > what I am posting about without asking me. This is why I asked you > - no > > > > > harm meant, as I said in the rest of it that was embedded in my > post > > > back > > > > > to Xeno. I hadn't thought much about it until now - "gang rape" > > > reminded > > > > > me of psychological rape - only because they both use the word > rape and > > > > > then I was like, wait...should I have been offended? I was just > > > riffin' - > > > > > don't take me too seriously Curtis. Your first appraisal of my > > > tendency to > > > > > amuse myself on this forum is not too far from the truth. > > > > > > > > > > But, do you know the history behind the song? I like the song, as > I do > > > > > appreciate and enjoy many styles of music. It was an interesting > song > > > and > > > > > very poetic. You note below that the lyric was a misinterpretation > - by > > > > > you? > > > > > > > > > > Ravi, I think you should be in charge of all apologies on this > forum. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > *From:* curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ > > > > > *To:* FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > > > *Sent:* Friday, April 26, 2013 9:25 PM > > > > > *Subject:* [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis - were you trying to PR > me? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sensitive Ravi to the rescue. Right, got it. > > > > > > > > > > It was not a gang rape lyric, that was a misinterpretation. > > > > > > > > > > But that distinction will not interest you because you are a troll > and > > > > > your posting intentions are unfriendly. > > > > > > > > > > You think you are "getting" a person Judy does not like and > winning her > > > > > approval, but instead you are revealing yourself and your shallow > > > agenda. > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula > chivukula.ravi@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I think a lot of men have incredible difficulty expressing > empathy > > > but > > > > > this > > > > > > one seems very cold-hearted and dismissive, as if the person > asking > > > these > > > > > > questions had no right to these feelings and/or was irrational > for > > > even > > > > > > trying to communicate that, viz "I have no idea why you write > any of > > > > > this" > > > > > > - I wonder if this is narcissism, disassociation and/or > psychopathy? > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway here's one way I would respond assuming I was innocent. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Dear Emily - I am so sorry to hear that you were disturbed by > the > > > gang > > > > > > rape lyrics. Looking back it was probably not a good idea to > post it > > > or I > > > > > > should have cautioned you that the lyrics had references to gang > > > rape - > > > > > in > > > > > > this day and age one should always be aware that there could be > some > > > who > > > > > > would get affected by that, especially victims and family > members of > > > > > > victims harmed by sexual violence. But rest assured Emily I had > no > > > > > > intentions to PR you, my intentions was just to share some music > > > with a > > > > > > fellow music-lover and in retrospect I should have known that > some > > > people > > > > > > may have found it offensive. I hope you are feeling better." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:51 PM, authfriend authfriend@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm, as much as Curtis asserts that his goal is "to be > > > > > > > understood by other people here," it doesn't seem that > > > > > > > he is willing to respond to the question Emily asked > > > > > > > him: Why did he make a point of calling her attention > > > > > > > to a verse about gang rape? Instead he just wipes out > > > > > > > her context as if it had never existed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously she found it disturbing. Why wouldn't he > > > > > > > respond--unless that's what he wanted, for her to be > > > > > > > disturbed? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Man, there are very creepy things going on on this > > > > > > > forum lately. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have no idea why you would write any of this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I shared music with you that I perform in my show. It has no > > > meaning > > > > > > > directed toward you except I thought I was sharing interesting > > > music > > > > > with > > > > > > > another music lover. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To be clear: There are no hidden messages or meanings > directed > > > toward > > > > > > > you by any music I ever shared with you on this board, ever. > There > > > are > > > > > no > > > > > > > hidden messages toward you in anything I have ever written to > you > > > > > here. I > > > > > > > have tried to be clear about what I meant at all times because > my > > > goal > > > > > is > > > > > > > to be understood by other people here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lets chill on sharing music. It apparently isn't working. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn" > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Curtis: Hey, I was just responding to Xeno on his > > > psychological > > > > > rape > > > > > > > > > post and this spontaneously came off my fingertips: > > > > > > > > > "nor did I [feel psychologically raped] recently, when > Curtis > > > > > referred > > > > > > > > > me to the gang rape lyrics of a song he posted. I probably > > > should > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > then, come to think about it, but I just figured I had > crossed > > > his > > > > > > > > > boundary again, unknowingly, like I did the first time. I > was > > > > > teasing > > > > > > > > > him; he got angry...." > > > > > > > > > God bless it, were you trying to publicly PR me? Did I not > > > pick up > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > that? I'm kind of slow on the uptake sometimes, it's true. > You > > > > > never > > > > > > > > > did explain to me why you referred me to the lyrics you > did. > > > If you > > > > > > > > > were, than I say "Fuck you, man, fuck you." If you weren't > than > > > > > maybe > > > > > > > > > you could explain it to me. Am I right in my assumption > above? > > > > > > > > > I know you ain't a country guy, in terms of music, but > here's a > > > > > song > > > > > > > > > from George Jones - RIP, that may bring you back to a > > > performance > > > > > > > period > > > > > > > > > that would be best left forever. > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onfce-UNmmE > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
