> >
> > ---  "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> wrote:
> > >
> > > ...in a science-savvy world, these religious sci-fi concepts 
> > > are to be expected. Believing that Marduk is an 
> > > extraterrestrial 
> > > is no stranger than believing in astrology or crystal healing.
> > 
> ---  "Ann" <awoelflebater@> wrote:
> >
> > I think you are taking this past where I was going initially. 
> >
---  turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> True, but with reason. It was *he* who took it further,
> and you who failed to be able to follow where he took it. 
> 
> > I was talking about the particular post made by GN which cited 
> > a particularly wild assertion by Sasha Lessin regarding the 
> > Earth having been nuked by aliens a very long time ago. In 
> > case you have lost the initial guffaw-inspired reaction you 
> > no doubt had when first reading this little gem let me refresh 
> > your memory:
> > 
> > "3,663 years ago, Yahweh, known then as Enlil, a 9 -12 foot 
> > fully Homo Sapien ET from the Planet Nibiru, 49 astronomical 
> > units from Earth, ordered nuclear attacks on the people and 
> > cities south of the (thence) Dead Sea in Canaan and on a 
> > spaceport he ran in Sinai. The fallout immediately blew over
> > and killed most of the Sumerian Earthlings--those loyal to 
> > Yahweh."
> > 
> > If you would like to continue to defend statements like these 
> > as perfectly in line with other beliefs that run rampant among 
> > the human race, be my guest. 
> >
--- turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Salyavin was doing no such thing. He was EQUATING 
> beliefs like this with beliefs in things like astrology
> or crystal healing, saying (if I got what he was saying)
> that these beliefs are in the SAME ballpark of crazy as
> aliens nuking the planet 3,663 years ago. 
> 
> I agree with him. And that's not even venturing into
> the realm of belief in things like a guy turning water
> into wine or rising from the dead or Ganesha leaping
> from mainland India to Ceylon or beings like Krishna,
> Rama, and Sita ever having existed. Or that the direction 
> a building faces affects you, or that by closing your
> eyes and mentally repeating a Magic Word you've been
> given, you can personally experience what Einstein
> referred to as the Unified Field. 
> 
> ALL of these beliefs are fuckin' BONKERS, seen from the
> point of view of someone -- anyone -- who has not spent
> years or decades being indoctrinated into them. 
> 
> What I think you may have missed in Salyavin's post is
> that he was making the case that the *extremity* of
> this particular set of beliefs can be seen as a metaphor
> for the extremity of ALL religious/spiritual beliefs,
> if you just step back from them and view them critically,
> devoid of pre-programmed acceptance. 
> 
> > But all I'm saying is that I am pretty sure that anyone 
> > who would believe this particular theory isn't likely to 
> > be having afternoon tea at my abode; I prefer not to hang 
> > out with crazies.
> >
---  turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Yet on this forum you "hang out" with people whose beliefs
> are *just* as ludicrous, when seen without the overlay of
> decades of indoctrination. You would be hanging out with
> people just as crazy (from my point of view) if you hung
> out with fundamentalist Christians, or orthodox Jews, or
> Hindus or even some Southeast Asian flavors of Buddhists. 
> 
> Once they have bought into a belief system, they *lose
> the ability to look at their beliefs critically, the way
> someone who does not buy into them would*. The person
> who came up with this jiveass horseshit about aliens
> nuking the Middle East three millennia ago CANNOT SEE
> HOW ANYONE WOULD CONSIDER IT WEIRD OR CRAZY. 
> 
> Neither can anyone equally invested in *their* particular
> belief system. They are so *used to* and *immersed in*
> the belief system as to no longer be able to understand
> how anyone else could not be. 
> 
> Now think about Fairfield Life. People regularly post the
> same old propaganda here about "the latest TM research," 
> and are AMAZED that people aren't creaming their jeans 
> over it the way that they are. People post exhortations 
> to "come back to the domes" to save the world, completely
> unaware that to many of us, the idea of them bouncing on
> their collective butts twice a day as a mechanism *for*
> saving the world is JUST as insane as Yahweh nuking the 
> Middle East three millennia ago. 
> 
> One *picks* the crazies one hangs out with, that's all.
>

For any advanced alien visiting earth, nukes would be 
extremely primitive devices.  These 'ancient aliens' 
theorists are a bunch of morons who have practicaly no 
understanding of science and the nature of technology.

Technology is going to progress much faster in the next 30 
years than it did in the past 300 years.  The progress is 
accelerating.

Artificial intelligence is evolving a thousand times faster 
than biological evolution.  If we can't beat them, we have 
to join them.  By the time we get to other planets, we would 
be more machine than human.



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