Ravi, I'm just blown away by your insights. I kind of don't know what else to say. Your explanation about Rahu and Ketu, plus what you said about houses and signs, clearest I've ever read. Plus what you say to MJ about grahas. Never heard that before and feels right.
I was wondering if maybe your bhukti had changed recently. But Guru going into 7th explains a lot. I look forward to seeing your analysis of Doc's chart. ________________________________ From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RD's astrological analysis Responses to Share, Uncleji and MJ Combining my responses because I don't have too many posts left Share: Yes I have gone into a new MD, I have talked about it in a previous post - Saturn started in Jan 2010, lord of 2nd (speech) & 3rd (writing) in 5th (creativity), the lord of 5th - Mars in 12th of spirituality. And I who was very shy, unsure, introverted all my life started writing, talking about spirituality and it was indeed dramatic and it continues. Jupiter transiting my 7th house perhaps may be giving its natural beneficence, an expansion and generosity in my interactions with others. Thank you for your compliments - like I said I don't particularly rate my astrology knowledge high but like raunchy said - may be I'm good at interpretation, good at intuiting the person from the chart. One thing - it's in my genes - my ancestors seem to have done lot of hard work and I'm reaping the rewards. A brahmin was not expected to ask for any money and had to depend the generosity of clients - so most Brahmins from Andhra are poor or middle class. So I don't have any fascination for money or power, plus I have a high paying job and my natural inclination to share my knowledge is what you see. I have already told the scope and parameters under which I operate. I was only providing a personality analysis, raunchy upped the ante by asking about her dasha, now you have upped it further by asking about transits :-). I haven't studied transits much, but you can apply the same basic concepts. Consider the inherent nature of the planet - benefic, malefic, and the domain of the house it's transiting - of course as you know only Jupiter, Saturn and Rahu/Ketu transits are paid attention to. So Rahu is for obsession, magnification grabbing - so it will bring increased focus to 7th house matters. If transiting Ketu perhaps lets the individual balance out the domain/qualities of the house Ketu is in because Ketu shows matters one neglects. If I have more ideas I will let you know or when I come to your chart analysis I can address it. Also on argala - if you stick to basics, argalas are pretty superfluous, unnecessary and unneeded. It shows the inter-connectivity between different houses which can be ignored since the same thing can be determined by sticking to basics. Uncleji: Why do I use mean nodes? Because mean nodes are always retrogressing which seems to fit in with the myth of Rahu/Ketu whereas true nodes can retrogress, go direct and be stationary. I know there's lot of arguments for and against and mean nodes made more sense to me. MJ: Why doesn't astrology consider outer planets? Judy has already explained that astrology is not trying to represent the solar system. An example would help clarify - why is love associated with Heart? According to Wikipedia - "The heart is a hollow muscle that pumps blood throughout the blood vessels by repeated, rhythmic contractions". Scientists say that When you catch sight of your beloved and your heart starts racing, that's because of an adrenaline rush. Anyway it's accepted by everyone that love is associated to the heart, no one questions it. I know when my love was rejected I felt pain in my heart though it wasn't physical. The language of Urdu has many words for this "emotional heart" - for example "Dil" - Dil means heart - one that feels, and is not connected to the physical organ called heart. In a similar way the planets are not really planets of the solar system. Though apparently they are used for calculations. The planets in Jyotish are "Grahas" - animated beings, a certain intelligence attached to each planet. Such as Sun for soul, Moon for emotions, Mercury for intellect. Hope this helps. On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Share Long <sharelon...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >Ravi, I'm wondering: have you gone into a new mahadasa? Of course Guru is now >transiting your 7th house. I'm bowled over by your knowledge but even more by >your generosity. Anyway, a question: what can you say about Rahu and Ketu? >And for me and at least one other FFL poster, what can you say about Rahu >transiting Ketu and Ketu transiting Rahu? For us both, the natal Rahu is in >7th. thank you > > > > > > >________________________________ > From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com> >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 8:26 PM >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: RD's astrological analysis > > > > >Thanks Jim, I will take a look and get back to you. I just need some time to >focus which is harder on weekdays with work but will take a look and get back >to you in 2 to 3 days. > > >Remember like raunchy said I try to get the feel of the whole chart, the whole >person and I find that sometimes it just doesn't come out very good. As you >commented here on how much more you liked this analysis vs Ann's. But of >course I tried to stay clear of astrological jargon and that may have hindered >my ability to lay everything out there. So just to caution you. > > > > > >On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 5:56 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com ><no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > >> >>Hey Ravi, my two cents, as a dabbler in the stars, this analysis seemed >>deeper, more refined, than the one you wrote for Ann. Piques my interest. I >>took my first breath, here, at 3:28 AM, June 20th, 1954, in Chula Vista, >>California. What does that reflect? >> >> >>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula" <chivukula.ravi@...> >>wrote: >>> >>> Dear RD – sorry for not getting back to you right away, got caught >>> up and considering I already had the core of the reading Sunday evening >>> itself – however also wanted to wait for more, other things I may >>> have missed. >>> >>> My standard disclaimers first – not meant to be fatalistic since IMO >>> Jyotish doesn't capture free will and how the person has adapted, >>> and doesn't capture the beauty, complexity of reality and the >>> individual and his/her journey. So I'm just detailing your >>> strengths, weaknesses, inclinations, challenges and you may be already >>> aware of everything I say here and have adapted, so no need to confirm >>> or deny anything here. >>> >>> Since you are already aware of Jyotish I'm going to be very >>> technical – I may enjoy this more than the reading for Ann, because >>> of that. >>> >>> First off your Ascendant is in Aries, so the effects are magnified and >>> are easy to measure, as in Saturn in 2nd house in Taurus – the >>> natural 2nd of the zodiac. But then signs represent inner nature vs >>> house, the domain. So Taurus represents one's need for stability, to >>> be tethered – being fixed earth and 2nd house for resources, speech, >>> family. >>> >>> Now coming to Sun dasha – it's effects. You are right dasha >>> changes do reflect major changes in life, I have personally felt it in >>> my life and major changes corresponded to major dasha periods. >>> >>> They corresponded to the ayana, direction of life in Jyotish – as in >>> dharma, artha, kama, moksha so the dasha changes shifted according to >>> the houses they ruled. Dharma (1, 5, 9 houses) as in oneself, one's >>> abilities, creative self-expression and one's inherent tendencies >>> expressed as living truth – the do's & don't's, >>> morality, ethics and such (9th). (Artha for accumulation, stability, >>> Kama – for desires and Moksha for one's inner search.) >>> >>> So Sun in 5th house as the 5th lord – means a primary need to >>> express your abilities, your creativity. Looking at earlier dashas, you >>> have never ran the major dasha of 1st, 5th and 9th lords in your prime >>> adulthood – only Jupiter (9th & 10th lord) dasha at your birth. >>> >>> So this explains the feeling perhaps of "Tempus Fugit" – >>> time's flying, being wasted of yours. Perhaps you are feeling this >>> urge of 5th – your need to finally focus on your creativity – >>> not that you haven't ever to varying degrees, but as a major focus >>> to create something. This is exceptionally strong since it's all 5th >>> – Sun, 5th lord in 5th house in Leo (5th house of zodiac – that >>> Aries being your ascendant thing again). Rahu is here – so it's >>> magnified, it's obsessive, it's consuming, over-powering. >>> >>> Sun is in the 5th with Mars, Venus and Rahu. This is the prime focus of >>> yours, your urge to create – Mars & Venus, you are very creative, >>> trying to channel elements of love, beauty, sex, music. But in Leo – >>> so you are dignified, polished, sophisticated – very private, >>> don't draw attention, Leos don't need to. They just put their >>> vibe out and others are attracted to them – like a prey to the lion. >>> However this has all to be noble, serve a noble cause, reflecting your >>> generosity and magnanimity, yours generosity also being confirmed by >>> Moon, Jupiter conjunction. Of course you also love to lead. Venus & Mars >>> people are very passionate and are in love with love (I have that combo >>> but in Scorpio – very different in its manifestation though) >>> >>> As I was contemplating your chart, a book I picked up when I was 16 came >>> to mind – one by Nancy Friday. Not that you will be exactly like her >>> but combining the elements of feminine beauty, feminine power, sex, >>> love, eroticism into liberation, transformation of women. (Of course I >>> gather some of it from your posts here here but it's also confirmed >>> strongly, here in your chart) >>> >>> Of course I need to consider the context – your age here, you may be >>> retired and not looking for something major? Will you write a book? Can >>> you be like a teacher, guru to other women? Or will you just create, >>> compose and sing music? (Your combination shows someone who is into >>> music and could be a good singer). And then 5th is also children, any >>> focus on this - I'm not so convinced. >>> >>> Another interesting perspective – that all your planets (other than >>> Rahu/Ketu) are in the invisible half – 2nd to 6th – so you may >>> not be a person who cares for some major public success, you are more >>> private, you care for inner joy and expression than anything for others >>> or some concrete crystallization. May be you should, more on it below. >>> >>> Can you write a book? Looks good – Jupiter, Moon in Gemini in 3rd. >>> Lot of creative intelligence flowing here, Moon, Jupiter is after all >>> Gajakesari yoga (wealth, growth, beneficence, expansion, generosity in >>> your initiative, communications i.e. 3rd). So you are an excellent >>> writer, very witty, quirky, sharp, curious, 3rd also for energy, >>> initiative and this are very good. Though you may not be an overtly >>> emotional person with Moon in 3rd in Gemini. >>> >>> Mercury is in 6th also confirms above, someone very detail oriented, >>> mindful of every little detail, of course your Aries lagna here can mean >>> excess nervous energy, worrying (OCD as you said here being reflected). >>> 6th is also for service and your intellect, communications being very >>> strong could mean you could be a good writer and offer it as a service. >>> >>> Even looking at Rahu – one's need to obsess, possess – here >>> showing an excess reliance on one's creativity for one-self. And >>> some of the cons of 5th are being too willful, competitive. However the >>> lord Rahu is in 5th is in 5th itself. Plus the opposite of 5th is 11th >>> – knowledge, the energies of 5th need to be directed towards 11th. >>> Ketu here shows 11th is being ignored – so for balance and maximum >>> happiness it needs to be directed, shared as knowledge for others – >>> 11th being concentrated knowledge(philosophy, religious precepts, >>> Science etc), social circles, friends and such. >>> >>> 11th lord Saturn is in 2nd and Taurus – so connected to 5th in a >>> way. Saturn shows limitations, restrictions – where we need to be >>> focused and disciplined. So by being disciplined, conservative in >>> speech, family, money, our need to be rooted is also needed for overall >>> happiness and balance. >>> >>> Sun usually sucks the energy out of the house it's in because of it's >>> focus, direction on one's soul to the detriment of other things - so SUn >>> dasha may cause digestive issues, trouble with children etc. >>> >>> So the bottom line is the Sun Dasha as the 5th lord in 5th showing your >>> need to express your creativity and I have highlighted it and potential >>> ways you could help manifest it by outlining your entire chart – >>> whether for your own need or something tangible, concrete for others >>> – for a noble cause (Leo). You can contemplate on this and decide >>> what's best for you. >>> >>> Ravi >>> >> >> > > >
