--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > > <anartaxius@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > > > > > <anartaxius@> wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NASA Footage from NASA's Solar and Heliospheric Observatory > > > > > > > > (SOHO) in space shows a UFO that appears to fly through the > > > > > > > > sun's > > > > > > > > corona. Published on YouTube on 6 March 2013. (Source: YouTube: > > > > > > > > StephenHannardADGUK) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Benjamin Creme's Master confirms that the huge spacecraft was > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > the planet Mars.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Share International photo for May 2013 x80;xa0;xa0;x92;xb6; > > > > > > > > Footage > > > > > > > > from NASAx80;xa0;xa0;x92;xb2;s Solar and Heliospheric > > > > > > > > Observatory > > > > > > > > (SOHO)] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NASA Footage taken by SOHO can be seen in a video called "UFO > > > > > > > > Creates Massive Sun Flash", uploaded on 14 June 2012. The video > > > > > > > > comments include: "Three ring-shaped objects seem to phase into > > > > > > > > view. Object seems to power up before taking off. As the object > > > > > > > > files > > > > > > > > past the sun, a solar reaction is observed. This proves again > > > > > > > > that the > > > > > > > > UFO is real a clear and defined interaction between the > > > > > > > > object and > > > > > > > > the sun." (Source: YouTube: StephenHannardADGUK) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Benjamin Creme's Master explains that the object was a > > > > > > > > spacecraft > > > > > > > > from Mars. The speculation that "a solar reaction is observed" > > > > > > > > is not accurate. The spacecraft was actually registering and > > > > > > > > calculating > > > > > > > > a great release of energy from the sun, which is occurring now, > > > > > > > > and we > > > > > > > > on Earth are just beginning to feel it.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://shareintl.org/magazine/old_issues/2013/2013-05.htm#signs > > > time, take a look at the actual video; > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYGa8p-rwz8 > > > > > > > > And while you're at it, try explaining how optical "reflection" can > > > > > move within a frame taken with equipment that is standing still. > > > > > Good luck ! > > > > > > > > > NASA explains the marks in the LASCO coronagraph images in two ways. > > > > > > > > 1. Comic rays tear through the sensor and leave a streak. > > > > > > > > 2. There are occasionally dust particles that float by and as the > > > > optics are focused on infinity they are out of focus. I do not know the > > > > exposures times for these images, but the camera is not operating at > > > > frame rates like for movies or TV. The system can transmit images 10 > > > > per hour, so that seems to be what the instrument is capable of. > > > > > > > > The video on youtube besides being edited for effect, also show > > > > tinkering - the flashing of the 'spacecraft' - while the object flashes > > > > the noise in the supposed multiple frames does not change, so it is a > > > > doctored effect. The actual movement of the object between frames is > > > > probably authentic. It is probably out-of-focus dust. There are many > > > > optical elements in the LASCO coronagraph, and mulitple reflections of > > > > bright objects in the system can create this effect. The dark 'holes' > > > > in the object seem to be the effect of the occulting disk. Modern > > > > catadioptric telescope optics often have mirrors cemented in the center > > > > of one of the lenses - this makes for shorter lighter instruments, such > > > > as a catadioptirc telephoto camera lens for regular photography. With a > > > > coronagraph, the surface of the sun is blocked optically within the > > > > telescope tube but dust particles near the craft but out side the tube > > > > are fully illuminated by the sun so they appear very bright, and out of > > > > focus. > > > > > > > > Here is some information on the coronagraphs on SOHO - there are > > > > several of them: > > > > > > > > http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1995SoPh..162..357B > > > > > > > > (a schematic of the LASCO coronagraph is on page 375) > > > > > > > > So I do not think that video is convincing. > > > > > > You remind me of a small child refusing to accept something that is in > > > front of his very eyes saying No,No,NO. > > > > > > I mean a real spacecraft would look really different. > > > > > > It would ? Why don't you explain to us what a real spacecraft would look > > > like ? > > > > > > The USS Enterprise on the 1960s TV show Star Trek is move convincing > > > than these images. You can see the original model in the Smithsonian in > > > Washington, D.C. > > > > > > > > Why is it that UFOs are always fuzzy blobs that look like optical > > > > reflections or dust or physical defects in film or sensors? Nabby, > > > > particularly with modern photographic imaging, you would think a really > > > > clear image of something would be captured that wasn't so totally > > > > ambiguous. > > > > > > Are you deliberately acting like you have no idea about modern > > > imagemaking ? The vast majority of images is coming from iphones and the > > > Spacebrothers, as of today, mainly appear at night. Even my state-of-the > > > art Nikon D800, the most advanced 35mm camera on this planet today, would > > > have trouble recording fast moving lights or objects against a black sky, > > > at least if I was not prepared for the event, had moved the ISO to 10000 > > > and placed the camera on a tripod. Unfortunately our Spacebrothers are in > > > the annoying habit of not announcing their appearances in advance. > > > But you wouldn't acknowledge the excistence of spacecrafts and our > > > Spacebrothers anyway, even if they landed in your backyard and invited > > > you in for tea. You're the kind of person that has to be dragged into the > > > 21'st century like the poor souls that 400 years ago stubbornly claimed > > > the planet was flat. > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7IxK2019bg > > > > > > Um Nabby, I watched the first minute of the vid and every UFO, > > about 10, was filmed in daylight. Shall keep watching though > > just in case some do appear at night and therefore be tricky > > to photograph. > > > The footage from Hawai is rather unique, but did I claim that all films of > UFO's are taken at night ?
You do say "mostly" in the paragraph above, I've wtached the rest of the Hawaii vid now and I can safely say the UFO's there are daylight creatures through and through. I think you should take youe Nikon down there and get some super Hi-res shots for us to examine. I hear the surfing is good too, which is probably what the aliens need after flying that close to the sun. > > Here's a question, is it the same UFO's flying near the sun > > that visit earth? > > No. Like you are pointing out, this particular spacecraft is huge - to say > the least. > > NASA STS-80 .... UFO Formation Over Africa . > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP2Nk1WwZmA Looks like condensation on the inside of the shuttle window to me, certainly moves like water. > > UFO formation (OVNI) over Guadalajara > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yuq2u7P4j2A All I see here is military planes flying in formation with their refueling lights on. They caused a lot of UFO sightings in the UK during the first gulf war. Becuase of the militarily sensitive expanation the MOD didn't reveal what was going on for ages even though they knew! Those things fly high and so are silent and the lights on them are very bright. I know someone who saw a giant triangle of them early one morning, he was amazed and thought he'd had a close encounter. Youtube needs an editor. I should volunteer. > > But all this is a waste of time for you and is directed at souls not stuck in > old myths about us being alone in the universe. I wouldn't say stuck, I'd say desperate to find out but I'm too discerning to take at face value these uninspiring and mistaken fanboy videos. Be honest, do you really think NASA are engaged in a conspiracy to prevent us finding out about giant solar surfing UFOs? If they are they're doing a crap job as they publish the stuff that people get so ridiculously over excited about. The sort of belief system that grows up round these youtube vids actually depresses me because it's killing the sense of wonder of millions of people. And that is a shame because it's a fascinating subject and the search is going well as we have found a few candidate planets for life like us. One day they'll find a planet with an atmospheric signature of life and you won't be impressed other than to wonder if George Adamski and Elvis are sharing a house with the space brothers. It's a shame.
