Xeno, here's the thing: almost always I like what you say and also I like how you say it. I like what you say because it resonates with my own experience. I like how you say it because I find your writing style easy to follow though your ideas are often profound. It's as if my whole brain settles down when I read your writing. But I promise not to take your advice nor make you my guru (-:
OTOH, thank you so much for your insights about apologizing. Robin didn't accept my apologies before and I've had no indication from him that he'd do so now. And actually I have apologized many times so I agree with you that some posters are using that issue, I'd say in an unhealthy way. IMO they need to focus on their own lives and let Robin and I, if we want, figure out who needs to apologize to whom and for what. There was plenty of hurtful words on both sides. ________________________________ From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius <anartax...@yahoo.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 6:01 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 10 Spiritually Transmitted Diseases --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote: >> ...and have wisely pursued healing modalities to insure that I don't do the >> bad behavior again. I am not sure that 'healing' can fix behaviour that other people think is bad or good. There are behaviours in some countries that would be considered rather normal, that would put us in prison in the United States. If you have a negative reaction to having done something, that is, a reaction that feels bad not because someone reacted to what you did, but because you reacted that way to what you did, that is a clue that maybe that action could be called bad, and you could try to steer away from that in the future. Its trickier when someone else calls it bad because then you are dealing with a description of someone else's world view; there is no internal impetus to change in that case, unless sufficient resources can be applied externally to you to 'adjust' your behaviour. >> I think this is all we can ask of us humans who are bound to make mistakes. >> I also offer as proof of being dedicated to spiritual liberation is the fact >> that I continue on FFL and in particular read Xeno's posts carefully. Did Robin ever ask Share for an apology? To Share: If somebody is asking one to apologise on behalf of someone else, I would not do it. But also, I would be a little more careful of following advice. Because nothing we think about is true on the level of thinking, you should not trust what others think, or what you think. That includes anything I say too. The sense of the direction to take seems to work better when the mind is silent. People who are constantly asking for apologies might be trying to control your behaviour by trying to induce a feeling of guilt. Tell them to fuck off. They do not have the space in their hearts to forgive you, so they will not give you the space to really accept an apology. The tension on both sides has to ramp down before an apology becomes meaningful.