--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@...> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote:
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> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" <awoelflebater@> wrote:
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> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote:
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> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote:
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> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> 
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> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > I too have cyber friends,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I'm sure you do.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > but I don't spend hours and hours for many many months
> > > > > > > > "defending" them.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > How many cyber friends do you have who have been the focus
> > > > > > > for months and months, mostly in their absence, of all kinds
> > > > > > > of false and unfair attacks and comments from a bunch of
> > > > > > > people on an electronic forum seemingly bent on portraying
> > > > > > > them as a monster?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > To help answer these questions, as a "learning aid"
> > > > > > for wayback and Steve on how to "act morally" and
> > > > > > "stick to the facts", Judy-style here are some facts:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Curtis last posted to this forum on May 7, 2013. 
> > > > > > Since that time, he has been mentioned -- almost
> > > > > > always negatively -- in the following number of
> > > > > > posts by the following people:
> > > > > > Judy - 35
> > > > > > Ann - 44
> > > > > > Doctordumbass - 52
> > > > > > Ravi - 60
> > > > > > Willytex - 8
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Vaj last posted to this forum on Aug 25, 2012. 
> > > > > > Since that time, he has been mentioned -- almost
> > > > > > always negatively -- in the following number of
> > > > > > posts by the following people:
> > > > > > Judy - 54
> > > > > > Ann - 17
> > > > > > Doctordumbass - 33
> > > > > > Ravi - 66
> > > > > > Willytex - 27
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Sal Sunshine last posted to this forum on Aug 25, 2012. 
> > > > > > Since that time, she (tracked by Judy's insulting pet
> > > > > > name for her "Stupid Sal" to avoid confusion with 
> > > > > > "Sal/Salyavin") has been mentioned -- almost always 
> > > > > > negatively -- in the following number of posts by 
> > > > > > the following people:
> > > > > > Judy - 18
> > > > > > Ann - 2
> > > > > > Doctordumbass - 1
> > > > > > Ravi - 14
> > > > > > Willytex - 1
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > In other words, it's *OK* for Judy and her friends
> > > > > > to obsess on the people *they* don't like, long after
> > > > > > they've left this forum, but if others do it to Robin,
> > > > > > that's bad.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Can you spell  H Y P O C R I T E ?  I think you can...
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Excellent summary, Barry. Thank you.
> > > > 
> > > > Do you take everything you read without questioning or even taking 60 
> > > > seconds to check if this is true? Surely, you who are one of Barry's 
> > > > loyal friends, must know he, er, stretches the bounds of what is real 
> > > > and true. And in this case it is no exception. "Excellent summary" is 
> > > > one of the funniest lines ever typed here at FFL, especially in this 
> > > > context. 
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > Ann, it is not that I don't read or question. 
> > 
> > I am sure that you question things in your life but in this instance, you 
> > simply took what Barry claimed and pronounced it "excellent". There is a 
> > difference between liking something because you hope it to be true and 
> > liking something because it is true. Unless you did more than simply read 
> > his assertion there you have fallen for his most famous trick. When he does 
> > this he lies to everyone, not just those he hates on this forum. He does 
> > not use any discrimination when it comes to disseminating false 
> > information; he is as happy to mislead you as he is to mislead me. All of 
> > this in aid of his personal agenda of revenge or making him look better 
> > than everyone else.
> > 
> >  >I have different opinions about some things and some people than you do.
> > 
> > 
> > Yes, but this is not related to the topic we are talking about which is 
> > Barry's wild numbers post. Opinions are one thing and can vary from person 
> > to person but an actual post count that can be verified it one were to take 
> > the time and trouble to check out the accuracy can be.
> 
> You are correct in that I did not go back and check Barry's math about 
> negative posts.  I assumed (perhaps incorrectly, I do not know) that he had 
> counted them up fairly.  If not, that is not good.  More than that, I was 
> commenting on the fact that, as BArry wrote, it is "ok for Judy and her 
> freinds to obssess" about people who are no  longer here, and yet she gets 
> angry when others do the same. 

I am not sure anyone is obsessing about people who are no longer posting here 
except  Barry continually harping on about Robin.

 > Judy can make negative statements about other people - presently posting or 
 > not - and feel it is fine.  She is somehow allowed to do this while others 
 > cannot.   Can you see that this is true?

I don't think there is as big a double standard as you are making out here. 
Negativity runs rife at FFL and it is mostly between those who are currently 
posting. Judy has a style of interacting which is her own as you do and as I do 
and as Doc does etc. The biggest difference between Barry and Judy is that 
Barry is often the aggressor in that he starts fights and prolongs them. Judy 
reacts to those who are aggressive or lying or manipulating. Her style is not 
reminiscent of a velvet glove but I don't find her observations or even her 
insults particularly gratuitous. It usually takes a while for her to get to the 
point where things get a bit heated and I don't find her just planting a land 
mine for the sake of it. That is one of the many differences, for me, between 
Judy and Barry.
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> >  >And that is fine for us all.  Judy and her way of interacting with people 
> > seems to be one of the differences between us.  In the only 2 posts of hers 
> > I saw a few minutes ago  (not read, just saw the opening lines today and 
> > quickly skipped them as angry garbage) she called me "Stoopid" and someone 
> > else a "prick."  Really great style of interacting, huh?
> > > 
> > > I guess I could turn tables and ask you, do you ever look at what Judy 
> > > writes and check if it is true? 
> > 
> > Not usually and for one reason only. She almost always does what Barry did 
> > not do, and that is cite post reference numbers or use actual quotes from 
> > lots of messages. Judy rarely makes a statement she can not back up with 
> > hard facts or quotes. I don't know how she does it but she does. She is 
> > also not so clumsy or careless as to assert something she can not back up 
> > with 'evidence' of some sort, either from the internet or this forum. She 
> > would have made a great lawyer. As far as her style of interacting with 
> > others, it is not how I write - she can be a hard ass - but I usually like 
> > her 'causes'.
> > 
> >  >As one of her loyal friends, surely you must know that she stretches the 
> > bounds of what is real and true. And she insults others routinely. She is 
> > known here for that nasty style.
> > 
> > She certainly takes no prisoners when she feels someone has crossed the 
> > line(s).
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> It is about more than that she takes no prisoners.  You put up with her stye 
> because you like her causes.  I am not talking  about her causes.  My point 
> is her way of interacting with people.

Well, if that is the case and we are comparing, insult for insult, those posts 
of Barry's to those of Judy I would have to say, in all the honesty I can 
muster, that Barry makes Judy look like June Cleaver. There is absolutely no 
comparison if you look at his "fart" post (349084) or the cunts too stupid to 
live posts just to name two doozies. This type of gratuitous, over-the-top 
posting by Barry is everywhere on this forum. 

> > > 
> > > And one more thing - I am not a "loyal friend" of Barry's.  I am not 
> > > taking sides.  I like many of his posts - a lot.  I can see the times he 
> > > exaggerates or lumps people together as TB's.  I move on and continue to 
> > > enjoy much of what he writes.  If you don't, that is fine, too.
> > 
> > This is a big subject which can wait for another day. It is pretty clear 
> > how I feel about much of what Barry writes and why. It is not your support 
> > or appreciation of Barry that I am talking about, it is this instance of 
> > his throwing out wild numbers without substantiation. I can pretty much 
> > tell you that I have never written 44 "nasty" posts about Curtis since May 
> > 7. Now maybe about Barry I have...
> > >
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