--- In [email protected], "Seraphita" <s3raphita@...> wrote:
>
> Yes, I think your reading makes sense of the quote. Thanks.
> Curiously, William Burroughs during his time with Scientology
> became convinced that the infamous e-meter (essentially a
> crude lie-detector)

That's what supposedly detects the engrams. I think "e"
in "e-meter" stands for "engram."

> actually worked like a biofeedback machine controlling brain
> waves and so capable of inducing altered states of
> consciousness.

That doesn't sound right! But what do I know...

> (So making any comparison with meditation even
> more suggestive.) He couldn't get anyone within the
> organisation to agree with him and eventually fell out with
> their "fascist" controlling mind set. He did make the grade of
> "Clear" though. Maybe that compares with TM's CC!

I think it's directly parallel. There are a lot of
similarities in the metaphysical teachings as well,
at least on a basic level.


> --- In [email protected], "authfriend"  wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Seraphita" s3raphita@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Re the quote below I copied from another website, two things
> > > puzzle me: "[Maharishi]didn't have much to say about the
> > > Scientology techniques because the comparison was obvious to
> > > us.": is the speaker implying that Scientotlogy techniques are
> > > similar to TM? Complete nonsense surely?
> >
> > Don't think so. I'm no expert; what follows is just what
> > I've picked up from reading here and there, and I could
> > be way off.
> >
> > It seems to me there's an obvious similarity between
> > Scientology's "auditing" and what is said to occur in
> > TM. Auditing releases "engrams," which are the close
> > equivalent of "stresses" in TM; and once one has
> > released all one's "engrams," one is said to be "clear"--
> > a state whose description sounds a lot like TM's of
> > Cosmic Consciousness.
> >
> > There are a number of differences in how the techniques
> > are performed, but one *crucial* difference is that in TM,
> > one does not examine the stresses that are released;
> > whereas with auditing (which is conducted by an auditor),
> > the engrams must be thoroughly analyzed to be released.
> >
> > > Perhaps the speaker is saying we're already able to compare
> > > for ourselves Scientology's methods and the TMO's technique
> > > and Hubbard's are of no interest to us. Odd way of implying
> > > that sense!
> >
> > FWIW, that's what I took this sentence to mean when I first
> > read it. Any TMer would quickly recognize the similarity
> > with auditing, I should think, but would also reject the
> > notion that the engrams/stresses must be examined and
> > analyzed.
> >
>


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