Haha, too funny. What life of and in the cosmic UC marriage, one or the other has a rolling pin in hand, domination does not matter. Bhahahaha
--- In [email protected], Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote: > > Thanks, Doc, someone asked Maharishi once if a person in Unity could marry > anyone. First Maharishi laughed and then to paraphrase, he explained that > differences don't disappear in Unity, they simply don't dominate. > > When you say from UC the identity will shift, I guess you mean it will shift > at the end of UC? > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "doctordumbass@..." <doctordumbass@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 7:08 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators > > > > Â > Hi Share, it is a difference in identity. In UC it is still all about *me* > and *you*, and how *I* am so much in union with *you*. > > So although fusion is taking place, it is wrt the experience of *me* in > Unity. Ego tripping at its best. From UC, the identity will shift. > > Make sense? > > --- In [email protected], Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote: > > > > Rory, I don't understand this at all. I thought that in Unity one is one > > with all. How could that possible mean being lord of all? Could it not be > > that people remain in Unity for decades because there is one heck of a lot > > of integrating going on? > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: RoryGoff <rorygoff@> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 10:00 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators > > > > > > > > ÃÂ > > Yeah, I don't know, but I am pretty sure I know one or more people who have > > remained in UC or something similar for decades. There is a pay-off for the > > ego NOT to go further, for it is at its pinnacle, lord of all it surveys > > (LOL) and why would it trade cake for death? :-D > > > > --- In [email protected], doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Sure, agreed about the lack of choice, especially since it has already > > > happened. But ten years seems like one heck of a long time to be stuck in > > > UC - Can't even conceive of such a thing; a lack of fundamental > > > integration, for that length of time - unbelievable. > > > > > > Yeah, the drain plug gets pulled on all concepts and relative > > > comparisons, eventually. Not because they cannot be made, if necessary, > > > but because they stop making sense, overall, which is different. And > > > since water flows downhill, there is not much sustained thought in that > > > direction, of an identity. Whatever it is, is freer to be whatever suits > > > the moment. > > > > > > There is no holding onto, because not only is there no attachment to the > > > object, the subject-object ceases to fuse together into Unity > > > Consciousness. Instead, the subject and the object disappear completely, > > > paradoxically allowing each to be fully experienced, in the moment, > > > encompassing potentially, all and any states of consciousness (SOC). > > > > > > Encompassing potentially, all SOC, does not mean that access is > > > theoretically available for anyone. Sure, that, and five bucks, buys you > > > coffee. So, in order to encompass the potential of all SOC, the > > > elimination of the subject-object relationship has to occur. > > > > > > After that, it smooths out - lol > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "RoryGoff" <rorygoff@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I am not sure he had any real choice to do it differently; it seems > > > > that I never have. For me, anyhow, Awakening rather destroyed any > > > > illusion of free will and real choice I ever had. This is not entirely > > > > true, though, of course. > > > > > > > > True enough though that for some at least UC is not the pinnacle, and > > > > the "next step" often involves abjuring the whole idea of steps, and a > > > > pinnacle, and growth, and all of that, in a way. :-) > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Just that by keeping it to himself, and seeing what came next, he > > > > > could have spared himself a lot of drama, and possibly time. That's > > > > > all. I am not saying he should have been more contemplative, only > > > > > that hopefully he has learned now that UC is not the pinnacle of > > > > > human consciousness. > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <authfriend@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I meant all those comments wrt his UC experience. > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I figured that, but I don't know how they relate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <authfriend@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], doctordumbass@ > > > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, it was going public that fucked him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Going public"?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Possibly would have grown out of it sooner, otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Grown out of it"?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ten years is a damned long time to be stuck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Stuck"?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - my assumption is that he stopped TM during that time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, he's never said, so we really do not know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" > > > > > > > > > <authfriend@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], doctordumbass@ > > > > > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yummy! I haven't eaten lunch yet -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" > > > > > > > > > > > <LEnglish5@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > (snip) > > > > > > > > > > > > This is where Robin Carlson messed up: he thought that > > > > > > > > > > > > he "had > > > > > > > > > > > > it all" because he had a valid experience of UC, and, > > > > > > > > > > > > at least > > > > > > > > > > > > by what he has said, he stopped doing TM. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **Heard an expression a long time ago about dropping acid > > > > > > > > > > > that serves > > > > > > > > > > > as a pretty good guide, "Don't peak too soon". Works for > > > > > > > > > > > seekers, and > > > > > > > > > > > child actors, too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Er, it wouldn't have worked for Robin. He had no choice > > > > > > > > > > about when > > > > > > > > > > to "peak." It was involuntary and completely unexpected, > > > > > > > > > > and it > > > > > > > > > > didn't go away for 10-plus years. (And he's never said > > > > > > > > > > exactly > > > > > > > > > > when he stopped doing TM.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
