I ran a tea house wrote:
Thanks Ann for your answer. My fist thought was, that I was a bit too snarky, sarcastic, so whatever I wrote - don't take it personal - but I think you already got that. Of course I have nothing against horses, they are beautiful animals, and even though I don't really ride horses, I still meet them when I run out, as they are here in the fields, and many people in the area where I live ride horses, there are horse races in the next village, where people come from the whole county. So, again sorry for the sometimes overly snarky tone. No problem, I like dialoguing here on this forum. What we have been talking about interests me. Regarding you, I take it that meditation is not really for you, I don't want you to be anybody else than you are. I don't want to persuade you to either do 2 x 20, or take up the dome program, or anything else. You are correct, up to this point in my life I simply find activity far more desirable in my life then sitting with eyes closed. I began meditating at the age of 14 and did so without fail until I was 30 or so. I rounded, I did the siddhis. The best meditations I ever had were when I was being checked. The combination of the teacher being present with quiet instructions to open and close the eyes was very soothing and the resulting meditations deep and nurturing. However, virtually every meditation in the afternoons resulted in sleep. But there are people who are inclined to having long meditations, who are lovers of meditation, you may find them on Purusha, or also in many other spiritual groups, or they are simply on their own. To think that they do this, because they have nothing else to do is rubbish. To think that they just sit around and let time pass is equally rubbish. I actually never really meant that completely seriously. But how this conversation started was when Share claimed those who meditated for 7.5 hours per day were "spiritual warriors". She never replied concerning why she feels this but I certainly don't agree. People meditate for themselves, for their own ends (no problem) and one is hardly a "warrior" doing that nor is it particularly gruelling in any way to sit on your ass for hours on end unless you are me who would find it tortuous. It makes me feel you don't know meditation very well, it's okay you have an active life and enjoy it. Meditation is something I did for 16 years every day, twice a day. I know it well enough. I still occasionally practice TM. I also think that those who pursue a Purusha type lifestyle should do so, because it is an urge from within, because there is a real calling, not because they want to 'achieve' something, or they have to force themselves. No argument here. But my point was that these people have nothing else pressing in their lives so they can have that 'luxury' of basically living their lives with eyes closed repeating some mantra (or not). Going on purusha, spending all that time would not be possible if they were Olympic hopefuls, great scientists or had three children to feed. Also, I am very active myself, I have to do many things, so I cannot afford to meditate 7 1/2 hours, Exactly part of my point. and since much of the effect of meditation has spread into activity, I also don't need so much meditation anymore. But I still like it, and meditate every day - and I never regret doing a single meditation. Meditation has always been my best friend. (and that's not because I have no other friends ;-)) Good one. One thing more I like to mention: With meditation there comes a deep sense of detachment. That's obviously diametrically opposed to the sense of passion and interest, you may get with other things. That means you can't love the world anymore, but your love and sense of passion will be different. And to Judy: she doesn't know me at all, the life that I am leading, she just tries to take an easy shot at me. I don't think Judy takes "easy" shots. She considers carefully. She is not a careless person. Whether she is correct in her assessment about you or not only you can really know, if you are open enough to really evaluate what she has to say about you. If she is wrong she is wrong but I don't think she says what she says here without good reason - from her perspective. I have included a link that is hopefully clickable (based on your instructions the other day). It is kind of a cool video about "equestrians". It doesn't say it all nor does it say it perfectly but it does touch on a bit of what I was talking about in my other post to you. It is only a couple of minutes long.Take a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32YTWKf4TQI&list=TLEr2mTnD_hFczwf7HOR6ut8p0FNSGtcaM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32YTWKf4TQI&list=TLEr2mTnD_hFczwf7HOR6ut8p0FNSGtcaM ---In [email protected], <authfriend@...> wrote: Iranitea wrote: > And to Judy: she doesn't know me at all, the life that I > am leading, she just tries to take an easy shot at me. And Ann is smarter than you are too. If you were as intelligent as Ann, it would have occurred to you that you, Ann, and I know each other only from what we write. That's the sense in which... > > ...Ann is far more interesting, vital, and > > in touch with herself and with life than you are, > > iranitea. > > > > Go figure. And it isn't exactly as if you're in a position to criticize anybody else for taking "cheap shots." But what I wrote isn't a cheap shot in any case;, it's an observation comparing how you come across in your posts versus how Ann comes across in her posts. Sorry you don't like it.
