Hi Paula and welcome to our tough neighborhood! Can
you talk about your experiences directly? You seem to
have experienced a degree of ego loss, one of the
points of enlightenment discussed here quite often. Do
you have an ego now, or is there only "no thing" when
mind tries to reference an "I"?

--- Paula Youmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Irmeli wrote:
> 
> 
> People can get enlightened without these inner
> structures. Then they
> tend to think they are fully perfect as they are and
> also superior
> beings. They desperately need their enlightenment to
> be seen, and
> themselves to be seen as superior, because that is
> their personality
> structure. The personal self, that cannot work with
> one's issues needs
> all the time adulation and a feeling of power to
> feel good about
> oneself. Problems are seen in the world. These
> people can create a lot
> of unnecessary havoc, but also help some in getting
> enlightened.
> 
> I personally think nowadays that it is probably
> better that people
> develop the inner structures mentioned above before
> the experience of
> enlightenment.
> 
> Irmeli
> 
> ***
> 
>  
> 
> Hello - I am very new on this list, but wanted to
> respond to this last bit.
> I am one of those people who somehow managed to
> experience things in reverse
> order. Strangely, it had the opposite effect on my
> ego...to the point that I
> felt I wasn't even "allowed" one. 
> 
> The real point I wanted to make about reaching those
> experiences before
> proper development is that it almost crippled my
> life as well as my mind. In
> my life I would not change a thing about the way it
> happened, but I can see
> how it can be both confusing and dangerous. Very
> dangerous actually.. 
> 
>  
> 
> I look forward to getting to know this list :-)
> 
>  
> 
> Paula
> 
> 
> 
>   _____  
> 
> 



                
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