Thanks for correcting my thinking - one could say such behavior on your part is "as is our tradition"
I have a longer reply that I will get to after I fix me some supper. -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 2/10/14, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Maharishi's Marketing To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 10, 2014, 8:44 PM MJ, your thinking is currently wrong around this TM organization stuff. It is just not accurate. Maharishi turned over the elements of it all at the time of his death. It was quite well planned for as a transition. The current revival of the teaching of TM was underway even before Maharishi passed away. In a process it is doing fine and seems on a typical curve like it has gone for a lot of spiritual groups in their post-charismatic phase. Maharishi gave his trustees the authority and power to administer the TM movement and particularly Maharishi anointed and gave the teaching of TM to John Hagelin in America and other smart people to do as they see best fit. The movement moves on. They are on the move and being quite successful now teaching TM. As like once was done at an earlier time prior to the current Prime Minister's era the decisions in the presentation of the transcending meditation state are being made on basis of science and merit and not so much around judgments of fealty as before under Maharishi and the Prime Minister. For instance, if polling shows that it is no longer effective having Maharishi out front and that is not in the interest of promulgating the meditation to its best then so be it. Likewise some other very practical changes being made to the policies of how the meditation is presented. Guidelines are different than what is the purity of the teaching. The essential spiritual teaching of the technique is in the hands of science and teachers now. They are moving forward with what they have. Some angry man from South Carolina or other quitters are not going to stop what is a larger destiny of transcending meditation rolling forward.I hope you can heal around this. And TM, its Truth keeps marching on.Glory, Glory Hallelujah!Glory, Glory Hallelujah!Glory, Glory Hallelujah!Its Truth keeps marching on, -U.S. Buck in the Dome You guys minds are so crude. I am simply suggesting MJ “rectify” his wrong thinking that seems based on some evident poor experiences in his long profligate lost time past. Often times having one's meditation checked for effectiveness of spiritual experience can clear things up. A meditation checking can provide that insight of right experience and one's joining in the field effect of a group meditation with strong spiritually experienced meditators will too. Let's close the eyes, let's open the eyes, . . I am sincerely concerned about your all having strayed so far in the anger of your thinking and feelings around what is the transcending meditative experience. I know from my own experience that you are losing a most precious opportunity of spiritual life on earth as what is the full intelligence of spirituality in the human physiology and a human life on earth. LIFE in the body, as the intelligence of the Unified Field in the Body. Waste not, wont not. Make Haste!I extend my hand to help you as I can if you will take it,-U.S. Buck in the Dome Om No, the teaching of transcending meditation is called initiative. The new TM.org has initiative. What a crock of stinking dog manure you make as prediction here. You obviously need a rectification. The meditative state of transcending meditation is not going to go away anytime soon for a long time never. Transcending meditation is a long way from over as the meditative state. The Unified Field is forever. You are fighting science. Repent your ways, come back to meditation and join with a group meditation nearby you.Unconditional Surrender, -Buck in the Dome mjackson74 writes: What you are seeing with the Movement is a very carefully orchestrated tactic to sanitize TM as much as possible to re-sell it to the ignorant masses. The idea of disassociating TM from Maharishi should be taken as an insult to him, if you really think he and what he did were the best thing since sliced bread, but I know you don't because you, like all TB'ers, will swallow anything the Movement tells you to swallow (except stuff in your case, that keeps people out of the Domes) This offering TM and no longer mentioning Marshy or minimizing his presence and role to the public is the same as not having any mention or presence of the rajas at MUM during Visitor's Weekend there. They are hiding what has been and what is. Too bad for them, because you can't escape your karmic baggage forever - the excesses and unconscionable behavior of Marshy, Bevan, Hagelin and the Movement at large will be made public eventually and the general public will turn them out to pasture. When this happens, MUM will lose its accreditation, Girish and the Srivastavas boys will then sell the entire campus to developers who want to build some houses that make sense, the vastu buildings are all torn down, the Domes are used as grain storage silos until the grain dealers realize the Domes have mold problems and they are then torn down completely. Some former students will come to town right before they are demolished to have their pictures taken in front of the buildings they used to have sex on in the summertime. Since the US is not contributing enough revenue for Girish, he will cease the payments to the American rajas who will then come camp out in YOUR pasture. Let's see how long you let them camp there. -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 2/9/14, dhamiltony2k5@... <dhamiltony2k5@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Marshy's Marketing To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, February 9, 2014, 9:41 PM MJ, Okay so you are not necessarily anti- transcending meditation although you are down in the mouth about some things TM and some people TM. And by what you are writing you feel Maharishi evidently morally compromised himself but responding to criticism like yours Maharishi has been taken out of the TM presentation now. They refer to the transcending yogic origins but no longer, “as taught by MMY”. TM now is standing on the basis of the accrued scientific research. Rightfully so. That was the revolutionary accomplishment of Maharishi to effectively depersonalize it in the end to be the universal teaching of transcending meditation. Say what you will about Maharishi otherwise he was masterful as a great spiritual teacher and he even out-foxed the wolves of materialism of Wall Street getting their money to do it. It is to the point now where he himself forced a change to depersonalize transcending meditation as the meditation state that other meditation practices and spiritual practices are now compared to. I'd say he played the whole game pretty well capturing the fort and all the territories along with it. Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha! You seen that bumpersticker? “He who dies with the most toys wins.” Well, well. A life well lived. You still read like you are hurt and jealous of something. I hope you can heal. And TM, its Truth keeps marching on. Glory, Glory Hallelujah! -Buck in the Dome MJ, I don't feel some guy from South Carolina should or even can stand in front of transcendent meditation manifesting like it is. Like the equal rights in emancipation was bound to happen; the freeing of the slaves no matter how much the slave power of ignorant racism in ole South Carolina stood in front of it. This meditation is also in the manifest destiny of the Unified Field in the life of these United States of America too. This transcendent meditative state is ultimately about equal rights for all. You are pissing in to the wind of destiny and that is no good. Turn around fur the Christ's sake of the Unified Field if not for your own sake!Love, -Buck in the Dome mjackson74 writes: Obviously you are living in some sort of Alice -in-Wonderland dream world to ask such questions - I am not anti-TM, only a realist. I merely put together a timeline of what M and the TMO has sold and when they did it. Its always been about the money. And I have created an updated version - look for it on other web pages soon. Dear MJ, you seem jealous of the Maharishi in publishing this time-line of yours and the color commentary in it. The guy (Maharishi) evidently was incredibly successful in his life. At the least in leading and creating large changes in culture in a lot of ways the Maharishi was also quite evidently the extraordinary revolutionary and spiritual teacher in his time. And you, some guy from South Carolina want to pull him down. Seems more like you are hard riding him trying your level best to run and break him down and everyone else associated with him. Are you really anti-TM or is it you are just jealous of Maharishi? -Buck