On Oct 13, 2005, at 11:20 PM, sparaig wrote: --- In [email protected], "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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--- In [email protected], "peterklutz"
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--- In [email protected], "Paula Youmans"
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I told Tom he was enlightened and he told me that I was enlightened, so there.
Haha.have you ever had someone tell you that you had reached
enlightenment?
It's a lot like someone informing you of a past life you don't
remember; or
getting the gas bill:
"Okeedoke, I'll take your word for it" lol
Seriously.how does anyone ever know???
Objectively?
I belive MMY says that levitation is proof of samadhi.
I suppose this means that if a person who is a known TMSP-
practitioner
repeatedly can take-off, hoover and settle down in a controlled manner, chances are this person is CC or above.
I believe MMY said that fully-perfected levitation (i.e.
floating)
(or other sidhi) done on-demand at any time outside of sutra
practice
would be a sign of fully-established Unity, not CC.
He's also implied that NOT being able to float at all is a sign
of
NOT being in Unity.
Given your first definition, the second would have to be true, wouldn't it?
Fully in Unity is not, as far as I can gather, the same as being in Unity (somewhat/someofthetime/sorta). There would be gradiations of maturity or whatever.
Non-advaita paths generally use Unity as the Goal (or Fruit) and true Advaita paths utilize Unity as the Path.
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