Ann, I see what you mean. But what if wearing your seat belt also protects 
passengers in your car. IOW, you're still behind the steering wheel and maybe 
steering. 


There's a very visceral scene in the Meryl Streep movie Adaptation. A car is 
going pretty slowly and suddenly collides and a body goes flying out through 
the windshield. Very motivating with regards to using seat belts, to say the 
least!




On Monday, March 3, 2014 1:47 PM, "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]> wrote:
 
  




---In [email protected], <sharelong60@...> wrote:


Ann, now I'm curious. Are you opposed to seat belts?

Nope, I think they are a really, really good idea. I just don't like people 
forcing me to use them by threatening to make me pay a penalty in the form of 
money after giving me a ticket. I feel our society is riddled with this idea of 
'staying safe' and with it the enforcement of laws that start to infringe on my 
basic freedom of choice. I am also fully aware that many would argue that the 
freedom to make bad choices (not wearing a seat belt or bike helmet) is not a 
freedom worth having if you are dead or severely disabled.



On Monday, March 3, 2014 10:34 AM, "awoelflebater@..." <awoelflebater@...> 
wrote:

 




---In [email protected], <steve.sundur@...> wrote:


Ann, I figured you would misinterpret my statement on bull riding, either 
intentionally, or unintentionally, so you didn't let me down there. 

Ann, you crack me up with your stance on bike helmets.  I mean talk about 
having a near sighted view on safety!

You might want to look at some stats on bike accidents with, and without 
helmets.  

You seem to be a rather serious mood this morning. And if you think my "stance" 
on bike helmets is "near sighted" you should hear my stance on seat belts!




---In [email protected], <awoelflebater@...> wrote:
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>>---In
[email protected], <steve.sundur@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Ann, glad that you can speak so expertly on behalf of (seemingly) all gay 
>>>couples.  That's certainly a relief.
>>>
>>>
>>>I didn't mean to imply that I don't understand the need for helmets with 
>>>bull riding, just that it takes away from the macho image of it to some 
>>>extent.   
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Oh, I still think seeing some idiot who decides to strap themselves on top 
>>>of an animal weighing close to a ton and not happy about it is pretty macho, 
>>>albeit it ill-informed. A tiny little thing like a crash helmet and safety 
>>>vest hardly spoil the image for me - they're still macho and idiotic (or is 
>>>that redundant?).
>>>
>>>
>>>I assume you are being factitious about bike helmets.
>>>
>>>
>>>No. I have a really rebellious streak about having to wear them, which we do 
>>>here up in British Columbia. You get fined and ticketed if you're not 
>>>wearing a bike helmet. I think it's stupid. Soon, you'll have to wear a 
>>>safety vest to walk down the sidewalk or get thrown in jail for 
>>>unnecessarily endangering yourself. I don't like to be dictated to when it 
>>>comes to my own safety.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>---In [email protected], <awoelflebater@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>---In [email protected], <steve.sundur@...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Definitely moving in that direction. (-:  
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Although, and not related, I do support MLB's decision to try to reduce 
>>>>>those hard collisions at home plate.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>But, I will say, I can't quite get used to helmets for bull riding.  
>>>>>Helmets for hockey?  Okay, although I well remember they game being played 
>>>>>without them.  
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>How about those safety vests for bull riding that they all now wear? 
>>>>>Frankly, I think bull
riders should be donning Michelin Man suits. Concussions are a big deal now and 
virtually everyone wears a helmet for most sports and so they should. Damaging 
your brain in the service of entertainment is hardly worth it. One thing I do 
have a problem with, however, is having to wear a bike helmet. I think of all 
the miles and hours I was atop a bike as a youngster and I never once fell on 
my head, as hard as that might be to believe.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>And okay, thrown out for discussion.  I would guess that many gay couples 
>>>>>may be uncomfortable with the fact that they can now marry in many places.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I think you are guessing dead wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  I am particularly thinking of my sister who has lived with her S.O. for 
>>>>>many years.  I have never discussed it with her, but I am not sure they 
>>>>>would want to get married. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Phew, you have never discussed this with your sister?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But I wonder if it becomes a awkward decision for some gay couples, who 
>>>>>might have wanted to stay just beneath the radar, and now a question might 
>>>>>arise, "well why don't you now get married"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>No, no. Silly notion.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>And yes, I admit, the whole notion of people of the same sex getting 
>>>>>married does strike me as a little odd. But I have no objections.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, that's a relief.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>---In
[email protected], <mdixon.6569@...> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Probably would do a smash-up Super Bowl half time show.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sunday, March 2, 2014 4:30 PM, "steve.sundur@..." <steve.sundur@...> 
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>Keep going Judy.  This is your strong suit.  Mine it Judy.  Mine it. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>---In [email protected], <authfriend@...> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(guffaw) Nobody could ever accuse you of trying to conceal your 
>>>>>>ignorance, Feebs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Okay, okay, you gotta admit, this sounds like a man trying to sound
like a woman.  A customer of our business is a transvestite, or maybe a man who 
just likes to cross dress.  We saw him last week, and he sounded a lot like the 
guy on this
recording.  Also, I just came in from doing an errand, and they had the guy 
Judy was talking about, and he sounded just like a normal man.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So, I'm not sure what the big hubub is about.  I guess it is considered 
>>>>>>high art or something that a man can sing like a woman, and we should all 
>>>>>>oooh, and aaah, and shout Bravo! Bravo!.  EvidentlyI am missing 
>>>>>>something. (-:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>---In [email protected],  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>My freshman year of college I played a
concert with the famous contratenor Alfred Deller and the
University of Washington symphony.   The concert was in a church
which now houses Bastyr University, a naturopathic school and the
church is used for many recordings including movie soundtracks. 
Here is a clip of Deller singing "Greensleeves":
>>>>>>>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V41O5J-EIGU
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Also one of my TTC course leaders was a contratenor and sang for
the group.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On 03/01/2014 12:04 PM, authfriend@... wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmyLkjxKCNo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>


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