--- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > So I ask again: Were you suggesting Bevan is insincere > > > > > > in his apparent devotion to MMY? > > > > > > > > > > Well, to be completely honest, the thought never > > > > > crossed my mind. But now that you bring it up, > > > > > my personal experience with Bevan was that he was > > > > > insincere in *all* of his interactions with other > > > > > human beings, so I consider it possible that this > > > > > trend extends to Maharishi. > > > > > > > > But this has nothing whatsoever to do with being > > > > a toady. One can be quite sincere in one's sucking > > > > up and still be a toady. > > > > > > Not by the definition you gave. > > > > Did you put your underpants on upside down or > > something today, Lawson? You seem more antagon- > > istic than usual. Here is the definition I posted, > > straight from Merriam-Webster. Could you please > > point out to me any language in it about either > > sincerity or insincerity? > > > > > > > Main Entry: toady > > > > > Pronunciation: 'tO-dE > > > > > Function: noun > > > > > Inflected Form(s): plural toad·ies > > > > > Etymology: by shortening & alteration from toadeater > > > > > : one who flatters in the hope of gaining favors > > > > > synonym : SYCOPHANT -- a servile self-seeking flatterer > > > > > synonym : PARASITE -- one who clings to a person of > > > > > wealth, power, or influence or is useless to society > > > > ONe who flatters in the hope of gaining favors...
So? The flatterer can be perfectly sincere in the flattery, and *at the same time* hope to gain favors from it. > You're saying that Bevan sucks up to MMY in the hope of gaining > favors from him rather than for the sake of being around him -- > unless you define "favors" as the expectation of being around > him... Well, duh! :-) OF COURSE that's the biggest self-interest "favor" for anyone who thinks that being around a guru is cool or beneficial. You toady up to the teacher in order to get to spend more time around the teacher. Duh! Other "favors" that are sought by spiritual toadies include being perceived by other students as being more "special" than they are, or as having more access to the guru than they do. These are common mental games played in ALL spiritual organizations. I don't understand what you're on about. It's like you're trying to get me to say that Bevan is somehow nefarious. I don't think he's nefarious. He quite possibly believes all the stuff he spouts about Sat Yuga and World Peace and all that. It's just that *at the same time*, my experience around him suggests to me that his primary motivation in life is being perceived as "special." I could be wrong about that, of course, but that was my impression. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
