Too bad you didn't get a buzz. I did many a time and it was not mood
making. Of course I got a buzz as a 4 year contemplating infinity when
I asked my mom how big was the universe. ;-)
On 03/25/2014 10:20 AM, TurquoiseBee wrote:
Gotta agree with Salyavin here -- no buzz whatsoever. I instructed
hundreds of people, and thus did hundreds of pujas, and never felt a
damned thing.
I'm convinced that the "buzz" thing is mood-making and the placebo effect.
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*From:* salyavin808 <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2014 6:17 PM
*Subject:* Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: No Mantra will cure willfully
arrogant stupidity
I didn't get a buzz from the puja, I enjoyed the chanting and the
exotic unexpectedness of it though and getting the mantra at the end
was clever, it worked straight away too. I was hooked from day one -
regardless of the etymology of the terms ;-)
I think you'll have a job getting the "aspects of natural law" excuse
past the fundies though, a blue elephant worshipped by Hindu's is
still a blue elephant no matter what you call it....
---In [email protected], <noozguru@...> wrote :
So did you get a "buzz" from the puja? You should and that's probably
why you liked it. The "buzz" would be the increase of "shakti" which
is something not well understood by western science.
Another thing we need to remember is that just the word "Hindu" was a
form of ignorance created by invaders of the Indus Valley who could
not pronounce a word starting with "I" so they put an "H" in front.
Sort of of a joke.
And "Hinduism" just like MMY said, is indeed a philosophy just like
Buddhism and not a religion. The "invaders" also thought the practices
constituted a "religion." And truly there are some Indians who
practice it "religiously." :-D
On 03/25/2014 08:07 AM, salyavin808 wrote:
No Mantra will cure willfully arrogant stupidity? Hmmm, seems like
that's the sort of thing meditation was designed for. Is it too late
for a refund?
I don't know why you people get so upset at a few inconvenient facts.
I'm an athiest and I loved the puja, all that bowing and singing and
incense, just like some sort of religious thing but not a religious
thing because it was all in foreign and quite enjoyable anyway, so
why would it matter? Unless you are some sort of religious person who
has what they are allowed to do proscribed by someone else, but who
would admit to that? As the TM teacher said: if you like ceremonies
it's a nice one. If you don't, it's a short one. And besides, I
wanted to get my hands on the enlightenment and the supernatural
powers the book promised, so I would have sat through a hymn service
at the local church. Almost.
Anyhoo's, I don't remember any god doing anything for me lately so I
conclude that the origin of mantras is irrelevant, and also about as
irrelevant as other TMO teachings I had plowed into me like the
"fact" that most of classical Indian literature happens to be present
in my body in some, unspecified, way. Which seems to me about as
religious a statement as you could /possibly/ make.
Coincidentally, you can cure people of any health problem at all by
chanting the relevant section of something called the ved at the
unwell part of the body in another undoubtably secular (and not
cheap) ceremony in order to redress the balance. According to the
latest "discoveries" of Maharaja Raja Raam (Tony to his friends) the
reason we get ill in the first place is because the battles of the
Ramayana are being fought out in our bodies. Astounding. Order me an
obviously secular yagya immediately!
But mantras I don't care about. I mean, /obviously /they come from
some hindu or pre-hindu teaching, all this stuff does and all this
stuff is ancient. The question is, why would that be a surprise to
anybody?
---In [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>, <emptybill@...>
<mailto:emptybill@...> wrote :
Recently I have read here on FFL an argument professed by former
TM’ers who stopped practicing because they claimed they were deceived
about the "meaning" of mantras.
I don't believe anyone has stopped for that reason. Usually they quit
because they don't think like it or don't think it has enough reward
for the time invested.
Some people seem to take to it like ducks to water and become full of
flashy experiences and evangelical zeal, I know I did. Go figure.....
