--- In [email protected], cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], cardemaister 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], cardemaister 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Please, pay attention to the position
> > > > > of your tongue at(?) the 'nn' when you pronounce
> > > > > "runner"? How'd you describe it?
> > > > 
> > > > With the tip of the tongue a little behind the teeth.
> > > 
> > > Oh? How is your tongue when you pronounce 'r', then?
> > 
> > Hard to describe.  The sides of the tongue
> > are against the upper molars, and the front
> > of the tongue forms a sort of little dish, with
> > the tip turned up a bit.  The tongue doesn't
> > touch the roof of the mouth at all.
> > 
> 
> That's almost exactly what I thought.
> 
> 
> > Where did you think the tongue would be with
> > the "nn"??
> 
> "Lazyness" of pronunciation is typical for Finnish,
> so perhaps that's why I thought it might be left
> to the same position where it is when one pronounces
> the r-sound. If that was the case then it would 
> resemble Sanskrit cerebral aka retroflex n-sound.

I have no idea what the Sanskrit sound is that you're
referring to, but I don't understand what you think
would be making the "nn" sound in "running" if the
tongue was in the same position as with the "r."

If the tip of the tongue stayed in the same place
but the back of the tongue moved up to touch
the palate, you'd have something like "runger."

Otherwise, it would be only the vowel that changed,
so you'd have "ruh-er."  Is that what you thought?

It's odd how difficult it is to describe what the
tongue does without a specialized terminology!






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