On Oct 23, 2005, at 2:46 PM, sparaig wrote: > --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> >> On Oct 22, 2005, at 11:33 PM, bbrigante wrote: >> >> >>> --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Oct 22, 2005, at 9:43 PM, sparaig wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Can >>>>> you point to older research that says otherwise? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> You need to be careful how you're defining "antioxidant". >>>> >>>> >>> Recommended >>> >>> >>>> doses of vitamin C probably won't have much issue. But taking a >>>> powerful antioxidant like amla is potentially dangerous for chemo >>>> >>>> >>> and >>> >>> >>>> radiation therapy patients. For example I know since the craze of >>>> taking another powerful antioxidant (Pine bark extract IIRC) >>>> oncologists were saying NOT to take it during chemo or radiation >>>> therapy. Also turmeric is contraindicated in some breast ca >>>> >>>> >>> regimes-- >>> >>> >>>> and I believe that is an ingredient of amrit k. >>>> >>>> Caveat emptor! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> http://caonline.amcancersoc.org/cgi/content/full/55/5/319 >>> >> >> This article refers to vitamins c and e as the antioxidants in >> question--imagine if you used something 1000 times more powerful >> > than > >> these like amrit kalash--you could seriously negate your cancer >> therapy. And the TMO is STILL recommending amrit for chemo/rad >> therapy patients! >> >> > > But "more powerful" doesn't mean the same as. And in vivo studies on > rats show that there is a direct positive effect fromthe interaction > of MAK and chemo. Likewise with a recent study on humans. > > Also, vitamin pills are almost never as effective as eating natural > sources. Telling people not to take vitamin C during chemo without > direct evidence that it effects one in a negative way means telling > cancer patients they shouldn't eat oranges since the average organce > has more than the MDR of C.
In terms of the ability to negate free radical mechanisms, it means a likely greater chance that it would counter the effect. A good example would be pycnogenol--it has similar antioxidant activity of MAK and it is contraindicated for chem and rad therapy. In regards to vitmains you would have to be taking huge amounts of C to get similar effects of MAK--and by then you'd reach bowel tolerance most likely. This seems common sense to me, probably less so for TB's who actually believe TMO research tells the truth... ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
