On 5/2/2014 7:13 AM, Share Long wrote:
> I agree, Richard that what's needed is to study these different brain 
> states in a scientific way. For one thing, to counter the flood of New 
> Age beliefs that we now deal with in addition to the old age beliefs!
 >
That's what I'm saying!

> A lot of the New Age beliefs, like it's better to be filter free, are 
> actually in reaction to the old age when people were so enslaved by 
> religious beliefs. For example, I think patients do better in surgery 
> when they believe in a positive outcome. So in that situation, a 
> filter is good.
 >
That's what drives me to distraction when the informants here try to 
discredit the science, and then turn around a 180 and try to convince me 
that their beliefs are more rational than my beliefs. I don't believe in 
levitation or reincarnation, or that anyone could fill a whole room with 
golden light, or that Chi Gung isn't Kung Fu. It's just a word game - an 
endless circular loop.

Reductio ad absurdum:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum

So, I simply think that meditation is what intelligent people do. I do 
believe in karma: what life does to you and what you do back. I'm open 
to the idea that thoughts can cause change at will, but it has not been 
proven by science. Like Randi, I've never seen anyone levitate for real 
and so making such a claim is counter-productive and absurd.

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