From: Michael Jackson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, May 2, 2014 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future and the New TM Movement:
so how d'ya transcend bliss? Stop regarding it as something to either value, or hold onto. Without those value judgments, what does it actually DO for you? Or, and possibly more important, for people around you? -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 5/2/14, TurquoiseBee <[email protected]> wrote: Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future and the New TM Movement: To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Friday, May 2, 2014, 3:12 PM From: Michael Jackson <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, May 2, 2014 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future and the New TM Movement: I'd like to know how Curtis does this dive deep for samadhi meditation, I have been doing some shikantaza meditation, but I just get vibbed with the bliss I feel after a little while and then get up and go do something else. The bliss starts after about one minute so its like, ok I'm here now WTF do I do? Bliss gets tiresome after a while I find. Any guidance on that Curtis? I'm not Curtis, but I'll comment. I consider "bliss" almost as overrated and overvalued as relying on subjective experience as one's standard for what constitutes truth or reality or "providing value." In many spiritual traditions "bliss" is considered a TRAP, an illusory state that many people never get past. In occult terms, its energy is associated with the lower astral planes. 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