I am happy that you have found a technique that works for you.  Thanks for 
explaining something about it.  

 But I see that you have not lost your ability to tie any comment to your usual 
tirade against MMY, TMO, Bevan Morris etc.
 

 I guess the Shikantaza form of meditation hasn't done much to mitigate the 
adverse effects that seem to have accumulated from your time with TMO.
 

 Keep at it, and maybe you will have a breakthrough.
 

 
---In [email protected], <mjackson74@...> wrote :

 How is this dropping names? I was giving you info on what Shikantaza is since 
you mocked it as being some kind of "designer meditation" - it has been around 
as part of Buddhist practice for centuries. I think you are taking pot shots at 
it just because I like it and you don't care for me since I am honest about 
what a liar and huckster Marshy was, what a liar and huckster the TMO leaders 
are and how much damage TM, TMSP and TM mentality can cause and HAS caused 
under certain circumstances. The suicides, attempted suicides, people admitted 
to mental institutions and more are no joke. Talk to Kyle Cleveland sometime - 
he was born and raised in the Movement, is all over the Net as a very vocal 
critic of TM and Marshy. Ask him about his experiences sometime and see how you 
feel afterwards.
 
 
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 On Sat, 5/3/14, steve.sundur@... mailto:steve.sundur@... <steve.sundur@... 
mailto:steve.sundur@...> wrote:
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future and the New TM 
Movement:
 To: [email protected] mailto:[email protected]
 Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014, 1:05 P
 
 Jesus Christ,
 what a little piker you are. My God, if dropping names was a
 means to enlightenment, you've arrived little
 fella.
 
 Between that, and your list
 of Bourbons, you've got the spaced
 covered.
 
 ---In [email protected] mailto:[email protected],
 <mjackson74@...> wrote :
 
 You
 are an idiot. 
 
 
 
 Shikantaza (只管打坐?) is a Japanese translation of a
 Chinese term for zazen introduced by Rujing, a monk of the
 Caodong school of Zen Buddhism. In Japan, it is associated
 with the Soto school.
 
 
 
 Sōtō Zen or the Sōtō school (曹洞宗 Sōtō-shū?) is
 the largest of the three traditional sects of Zen in
 Japanese Buddhism (the others being Rinzai and Ōbaku). It
 emphasizes Shikantaza, meditation with no objects, anchors,
 or content. The meditator strives to be aware of the stream
 of thoughts, allowing them to arise and pass away without
 interference.
 
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 On Sat, 5/3/14, steve.sundur@...
 <steve.sundur@...>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future
 and the New TM Movement:
 
 To: [email protected] mailto:[email protected]
 
 Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014, 3:18 AM
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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