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On Sat, 5/3/14, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future and the New TM 
Movement:
 To: [email protected]
 Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014, 9:24 PM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       Michael, why
 don't you post it.  I mean, really, I'm a little
 burned out having read many of the smoking gun stories that
 you are certain prove the point of how bad is the
 TMO.
 My God, the latest expose of the mold in the vent
 at MUM didn't quite have the bang you might have
 expected.
 And then there was the
 courageous student challenging the teacher about a study.
  Turns out there were a few pertinent facts left out which
 may have bolstered or weakened the story.  Did you hear
 that?  Bolstered or
 weakened the story.
 But carry on oh Christian Soldier!
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected],
 <mjackson74@...> wrote :
 
 not
 a tirade merely statement of facts - talk to Kyle like I
 suggest and see whats what
 
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 On Sat, 5/3/14, steve.sundur@...
 <steve.sundur@...>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future
 and the New TM Movement:
 
 To: [email protected]
 
 Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014, 3:25 PM
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I am happy
 
 that you have found a technique that works for you.
  Thanks
 
 for explaining something about it. 
 
 But I see that you have not lost your ability to
 
 tie any comment to your usual tirade against MMY, TMO,
 Bevan
 
 Morris etc.
 
 I guess the Shikantaza form
 
 of meditation hasn't done much to mitigate the
 adverse
 
 effects that seem to have accumulated from your time with
 
 TMO.
 
 Keep at it, and maybe you
 
 will have a breakthrough.
 
 
 
 ---In
 
 [email protected],
 <mjackson74@...> wrote
 
 :
 
 
 
 How is this dropping
 
 names? I was giving you info on what Shikantaza is since
 you
 
 mocked it as being some kind of "designer
 
 meditation" - it has been around as part of Buddhist
 
 practice for centuries. I think you are taking pot shots
 at
 
 it just because I like it and you don't care for me
 
 since I am honest about what a liar and huckster Marshy
 was,
 
 what a liar and huckster the TMO leaders are and how much
 
 damage TM, TMSP and TM mentality can cause and HAS caused
 
 under certain circumstances. The suicides, attempted
 
 suicides, people admitted to mental institutions and more
 
 are no joke. Talk to Kyle Cleveland sometime - he was
 born
 
 and raised in the Movement, is all over the Net as a very
 
 vocal critic of TM and Marshy. Ask him about his
 experiences
 
 sometime and see how you feel afterwards.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 On Sat, 5/3/14, steve.sundur@...
 
 <steve.sundur@...>
 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future
 
 and the New TM Movement:
 
 
 
 To: [email protected]
 
 
 
 Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014, 1:05 P
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Jesus Christ,
 
 
 
 what a little piker you are. My God, if dropping names
 was
 
 a
 
 
 
 means to enlightenment, you've arrived little
 
 
 
 fella.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Between that, and your list
 
 
 
 of Bourbons, you've got the spaced
 
 
 
 covered.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 ---In [email protected],
 
 
 
 <mjackson74@...> wrote :
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 You
 
 
 
 are an idiot. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Shikantaza (只管打坐?) is a Japanese translation of a
 
 
 
 Chinese term for zazen introduced by Rujing, a monk of
 
 the
 
 
 
 Caodong school of Zen Buddhism. In Japan, it is
 
 associated
 
 
 
 with the Soto school.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Sōtō Zen or the Sōtō school (曹洞宗 Sōtō-shū?)
 
 is
 
 
 
 the largest of the three traditional sects of Zen in
 
 
 
 Japanese Buddhism (the others being Rinzai and Ōbaku).
 
 It
 
 
 
 emphasizes Shikantaza, meditation with no objects,
 
 anchors,
 
 
 
 or content. The meditator strives to be aware of the
 
 stream
 
 
 
 of thoughts, allowing them to arise and pass away without
 
 
 
 interference.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 On Sat, 5/3/14, steve.sundur@...
 
 
 
 <steve.sundur@...>
 
 
 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Re-Facilitating a Future
 
 
 
 and the New TM Movement:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 To: [email protected]
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Date: Saturday, May 3, 2014, 3:18 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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