--- In [email protected], "markmeredith2002" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > For example: Quote: 
> > > > "Hagelin's study used time series analysis to rule out a long 
> > list 
> > > of 
> > > > alternative explanations, including weather variables, 
seasonal 
> > > > effects, changes in police surveillance, and trends and 
cyclical 
> > > > patterns inherent in the crime data."
> > > > http://istpp.org/crime_prevention/voodoo_rebuttal.html
> > > > 
> > > > OffWorld.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Assuming that this is the case, that still doesn't rule out 
some 
> > > OTHER factor that wasn't considered, like I said...>>>
> > 
> > Yes it does. This is how statistical analysis works. It minimizes 
> > the probability that it is due to some other factor, than the one 
> > being observed.
> 
> The raw data in the DC study did not show any statistical validity,

Not so. Even the raw numbers showed a positive effect, overall.

 so
> Hagelin adjusted the data by a "heat factor" arguing that the 
weather
> was hotter than avg and thus the crime rate should have been higher
> than avg. 

That's not what he did.

 This is how he got his statistical proof.

No.

  And this is why
> studies conducted by people with an obvious bias in the outcomeare
> generally not taken too seriously by scientific community as they
> typically massage the data and the type of statistical analysis used
> in order to get the conclusion they want.  The maharishi effect is
> still waiting for an independent verification.  

True.



When professors at the
>  U of Iowa attempted to do, MUM refused to cooperate with them.
>

Specifically Barry Markowski. I don't know that the numbers weren't 
fudged but Barry told me explicitly when we had lunch a few years 
back that he can understand why they think he is biased against them, 
which is the explanation they have made.

I personally don't think that Barry would fudge his own analysis of 
the numbers to make them look bad, but they apparently do or at least 
have a plausible reason to say this.






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