Speaking of "outright nonsense," this bullcrap is coming from the person for whom every problem in life can be solved by "getting a checking." :-)
Nabby also sees no problem with people on courses being hidden away in basements, where at least two I know of have committed suicide. I suppose this is his idea of how mental problems should be treated. ________________________________ From: nablusoss1008 <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A suicide in FF Outright nonsense from the Turq, as expected. The facts doesn't fit his hate-model so he pretends it doesn't exist. Of course people that on very rare occasions develop problems are asked to get adequate mental help, as everyone that has been to an international course knows. They are closely supervised to reduce rounding, moved to the basement if necessary, in severe cases provided with adequate medication supervised by doctors and then sent home. Their families are informed and told to help the individual get professional help. And always the problems are found in the history of the individual, problems that the person has kept under the radar as to be able to go to courses. Problems that has nothing whatsoever to do with the meditation practice but unbalances usually from childhood that they have been suppressing. In the cases I know of the individual has not done the practice according to rules, usually meditating much MORE than the very clear guidelines set. Or, as in this case severe brain damage from an accident. Of course, these are simple facts that the Turq don't want anyone to know about because it doesn't fit his hate-model, but it might be useful for others. ---In [email protected], <turquoiseb@...> wrote : I've been staying out of this, and will continue to do so, but I have to point out the eagerness with which several people have pounced on the brain injury/coma thing. It's almost as if you can feel them relax and say to themselves, "Whew! There is some kind of *excuse* that I can glom onto so that I don't have to deal with the possibility that this is yet another in a rather long list of TM movement suicides, and thus a potential source of cognitive dissonance for me. It's good to have this excuse, so I don't have to 'go there'." >From my staying-out-of-it-so-far point of view Michael is not overreacting to >Yet Another Suicide by implying that it is linked with TM any more than >several others here are knee-jerk overreacting to the same suicide by implying >that it is not. It is absolutely LUDICROUS to pretend that TM has not promised >a world and a society in which problems simply cannot happen. It is similarly >LUDICROUS to pretend that anyone who does develop emotional problems within a >TM-only community will be provided adequate mental health care for them. It >has never happened and it will never happen, because providing the care in the first place will be perceived by those in charge as "having doubts" about TM being the panacea they believe it is. From: "steve.sundur@... [FairfieldLife]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 6:05 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another suicide in FF Michael, to the rest of the world, the fact that he sustained a serious brain injury two years ago, puts the whole issue in a different light, whether you wish to acknowledge this or not. You have amply demonstrated that you are capable of tying TM to most any negative event, whether it makes sense or not. From: feste37 <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 10:10 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Another suicide in FF The post from Sheer-el from when he was an MSAE student was about 10 years ago, I think. He did suffer a serious injury about two years ago. He was in a coma for a while, I believe. I did hear that it was some kind of brain injury. I wonder if that injury affected him in some way that no one knew about. This is a tragedy for the family and for Fairfield. I do think that people should not use it on this board to push their anti-TM views. It's not appropriate, particularly as we know nothing of the circumstances in this case. ---In [email protected], <geezerfreak@...> wrote : >>>> >>>>Sheer-el Cohen. He was employed at the Raj. Apparently this happened >>>>yesterday. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>
