On Oct 30, 2005, at 3:48 PM, Peter wrote:

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> --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> How do you reconcile the fact, which was mentioned
>> on here in some
>> detail, that M. sleeps a full eight hours or more
>> and the fact that
>> enlightened beings require little sleep? There are
>> numerous other
>> items which would bring into question M.'s
>> "enlightenment".
>>
>> So the story goes.
>>
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> MMY is fully enlightened, no doubt about it, 100%
> true. Nothing in the relative indicates anything
> regarding enlightenment. All mind games and ego
> positions. Vaj, have you ever interacted with MMY
> personally?
>
>

While different people will vary somewhat, there are some relative  
determinants. Sleep is definitely one of them. I believe Judy could  
probably list the 20 or so determinants from the TMO and what they  
are, as she has mentioned them before. Judy?

If nothing in the relative indicated *anything* about enlightenment,  
then the TMO would not've bothered with all this research on the  
"neurophysiology of enlightenment", etc. I'd even go so far as to say  
the TMO model of enlightenment contains some elements of truth but is  
incomplete and extremely misleading. It has been created to help  
market the techniques they sell. Therefore, due to it's  
incompleteness, it leads people to prematurely imagine their own  
exalted status.






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