On Oct 30, 2005, at 5:29 PM, authfriend wrote: > Nor do I remember most of them. The only one I'm sure > of, because it struck me funny, is "Breathing less." > I think sleeping less was one of them too, but I > couldn't swear to it. > > What puzzles me about this exchange is that (a) I > can't recall seeing anything here about MMY sleeping > eight hours or more; and (b) I've heard *countless* > stories from people who worked closely with MMY that > he in fact sleeps very little.
Yeah, me too. But we had some fairly authoritative testimony that this was in fact NOT the case on FFL. It was rather saddening to hear. Some commented that this was the type of misinformation that was being passed around. > Maybe, as he ages, > he sleeps more than he did, but this is the first > time I've heard anything about his sleeping more > than a few hours a night, even from the most rabid > TM critics. Yeah, I know, like I said, I was shocked--and these (IIRC) were older reports from some of his secretaries. > > In any case, it seems absurd to me to hold the > amount of time a person sleeps to be some kind of > surefire indicator of whether they're enlightened. > Even the "20 Green Lights" lecture said explicitly > that the "green lights" were *tendencies* that one > might or might not have. The "green lights" were > positive indicators, but not having them was *not* > a negative indicator. I think that's a good word, "indicator". However, in the absence of the determinants I have both witnessed and received (often they are given as "secret" and "super secret" signs in various initiations) I have to stick with my own observations and my own intuitions on these matters. > > (I believe I recall that the lecture was said to > have been originated by a TM teacher whose first > name was Peter, who was rumored to be in CC himself. > He was around the Manhattan TM Center a lot and > taught many of its residence courses, another really > brilliant teacher. Anybody know who I'm talking > about, or what he's doing now? He would tell a > joke about a "large-mouthed frog," which I can't > remember either.) > It would be interesting to hear and find out about. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
