--- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> > > Peter:MMY is fully enlightened, no doubt about it, 100%
> > > true. Nothing in the relative indicates anything
> > > regarding enlightenment. All mind games and ego
> > > positions. Vaj, have you ever interacted with MMY
> > > personally?
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > Irmeli:I quote an earlier earlier post of yours dr.Pete:
> > "The mind wants to have a story as a defense against
> > experiences that contradict its primary story. Why
> > have any story at all? MMY is a con artist; MMY is a
> > great saint. He's both, he's neither, he's nothing.
> > Why have any story/position at all. Does it matter?
> > Attached, non-attached...just more stories."
> > 
> > Dr. Pete why do you want to create this story.
> > Enlightened or not
> > enlightened, doesn't matter, just stories. In
> > addition to that
> > enlightenment is a very confusing concept, because
> > it is understood in
> > so many ways. I myself also understand it in many
> > ways. In one end I
> > see every living sentient being to be enlightened
> > and at the other
> > extreme no one qualifies. Why do you need to defend
> > MMY hiding so
> > strongly behind the story of enlightenment (100%
> > true).
> > Or maybe there is no "I", who has an agenda to
> > defend here. Words just
> > lightly pop up from nowhere, there is no weight, no
> > emotional stirring
> > prompting YOU to write? Whom are YOU trying to
> > delude here and why?
> > 

> 
>Peter: Good questions. I'm not defending a MMY story (or at
> least I'm not aware that I am). I'm just noting my
> experience of MMY. 
Big snip


Irmeli:
I would never express my subjective experience in the terms you did:
"MMY is fully enlightened, no doubt about it, 100% true". Are you
implying here that because you are enlightened and you have no
separate personal self your perceptions are 100% true?







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