--- In [email protected], off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], "L B Shriver" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In [email protected], bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:


snip

> > > Mebbe so, but what TMer has not experienced the lessening of 
> breath 
> > > (which subsumes lessening of oxygen consumption), so it's a just 
> a 
> > > measurement problem -- it's not false that oxygen consumption is 
> > > significantly lower in TM.
> > >
> > @@@@@@@
> > 
> > Exactly, Bobananda. However, it would be indistinguishably lower 
> than if you were just 
> > sitting with eyes closed.
> > 
> > L B S>>>
> 
> 
> I have never in my life had anything like the experience of breath 
> suspension that I get from TM, by just sitting with my eyes closed. 
> The two are ENTIRELY different states of physiology, and if someone 
> measures me when I am in that state of breath suspension they will 
> wonder how my body is maintianed. There are yogi's who can sustain 
> it for days, with VERY low oxygen consumption. Mine is unstable and 
> I cannot cause it at will, but it is the same thing in lesser form.
> 
> OffWorld

&&&&&&&&

You may be correct in this. My response to Bobananda was a sweeping 
overgeneralization 
in that I was only referring to the average readings.

Breath suspension may be unique to meditation. I can't speak to this 
definitively because I 
don't know if there is research on the possibility or extent of breath 
suspension among 
those who just sit quietly with eyes closed.

L B S
>






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