--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But what I was trying to get at was your previous > statement about it being necessary to posit an "I" > that sees the flower, even in enlightenment. If you > try to go at it that way in describing enlightenment, > you run into the problem Peter described of using > a lower-order tool to portray a higher-order state. > **** Very clearly I don't share your enlightenment. I cannot miss it either. I am happy, experience bliss 24 hours a day, feel I'm learning and evolving and my health has become much better and I feel I'm also capable of helping others to evolve. There is nothing more I could dream from life. There is only one intellectual problem here: There are many people who are claimed to be enlightened. They also clearly can have many kinds of character problems: be narsissists,need constant adulation by followers etc.What is so special about that kind of enlightenmet. Can these narsissistic or even other enlightened people help really fellow humans prosper better in the world? I have no clear observation of that. I have seen that responsible, nonmanipulative compassionate ordinary people can do a lot to help their fellow humans to get over their problems.
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