--- In [email protected], "Irmeli Mattsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But what I was trying to get at was your previous > > statement about it being necessary to posit an "I" > > that sees the flower, even in enlightenment. If you > > try to go at it that way in describing enlightenment, > > you run into the problem Peter described of using > > a lower-order tool to portray a higher-order state. > > > **** > Very clearly I don't share your enlightenment.
I beg your pardon? When did I ever suggest I was enlightened? I cannot miss it either. > I am happy, experience bliss 24 hours a day, feel I'm learning and > evolving and my health has become much better and I feel I'm also > capable of helping others to evolve. There is nothing more I could dream > from life. > There is only one intellectual problem here: There are many people who > are claimed to be enlightened. They also clearly can have many kinds of > character problems: be narsissists,need constant adulation by followers > etc.What is so special about that kind of enlightenmet. Can these > narsissistic or even other enlightened people help really fellow humans > prosper better in the world? I have no clear observation of that. > I have seen that responsible, nonmanipulative compassionate ordinary > people can do a lot to help their fellow humans to get over their > problems. I have no idea what you're blathering about here. I thought we were talking about the difficulty of describing enlightenment. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
