--- In [email protected], anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I beg your pardon? When did I ever suggest I was > > enlightened? > > **** > Then why so adamant about your "position" on the topic? > > (Further comments on Peter and Irmeli appear below). > > After years of delving into these topics myself, I have come to a > conclusion - if the important truths involved in the various levels of > realization are so ineffable that the human intellect cannot grasp > them, then any concepts that we may have acquired via reading from > Maharishi's commentary on the Gita or from Ramana Maharishi or etc. > are limited in value in a discussion between people who do not share > the same concepts. > True. It is a strange thing to attempt to communicate the subjective experience of enlightenment or realization or Brahman, because it is only from the state of enlightenment or realization or Brahman that a person can surely go, 'Aha!', and see the similarity in all of the descriptions of such a state.
On the other hand, perhaps it remains useful to continue the attempt at communicating such a state in general, because if we trace our link from the senses to the intellect to the Atman or localized Self within us, whether we are aware of our Atman or not, there is a recognition, even among the unenlightened, of some element of truth within the words of those who attempt to explain or convey their subjective experience of enlightenment, and therefore a possible signpost or indicator for our personal experience, that we may use to strengthen our desire for enlightenment, and hence move closer to the goal. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
