--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If that's your point, it's a bit odd that you were > including me at all, since I was arguing that the > intellect cannot grasp what enlightenment is.
**** How do you know this Judy? Some people who claim to be enlightened, or appear to have a lot of wisdom say that this is true. When they say it, it never appears to be an "argument" for them, simply an innocent statement about how they experience, or an expression of frustration about communicating their experience. Is it a valid thing to *argue* "that the intellect cannot grasp what enlightenment is" from the point of view of one who is not enlightened? Does this not imply a strong adherence to a belief rather than a statement of fact? > > I've said here and on alt.m.t a number of times that > when you take any of MMY's teachings, or any authentic > intellectual teaching about consciousness, and take > it right down to the nitty-gritty, you end up in > contradiction or infinite regress, which is what > Self-reference looks like to the "mistaken" intellect. > > I quoted MMY as an example of that. > > And yes, what I just expressed is a concept, but > it's a concept about the nature of the limits of > the intellect, not about enlightenment per se. **** These words have a coherent meaning. But they seem to side step the questions that I posed above. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
